Going back to the land of the free!
USA the country with the most jailed in the world, even China with 5x more population
It is baffling how they keep lecturing the world
Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules
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Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Can't we just drone this guy?" -- about Julian Assange from the candidate in the 2016 presidential election that got the largest share of the popular vote
Unproven. “I spread misinformation to others without doing due diligence,” phone8675309 said. Also unproven
That war hawk has been openly calling for Assange to "answer for what he's done" for years; ever since he showed people just how bought she is with her own campaign manager's emails.
And on this "who has lied more" chart, we can see Hillary is up there in the hundred of verified lies area, while Assange and Wikileaks are on 0 verified lies.
Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules
#293This should be a sobering view of how the world really works. Above a certain threshold, every veneer of civilization vanishes no matter what the country (some have a higher threshold than others). At this level, only power matters. And the first rule of power is: Don't embarrass the powerful unless you can call on a lot of power to defend yourself. Laws can't protect you; they can be thwarted and bent, and the legal…
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#294This was inevitable to anyone who read the original ruling. What I said 11 months ago: " actually don't think this is such great news for him. Extradition was specifically blocked on the grounds of a particular regime he might be subjected to (to be fair, probably the only legal grounds on which he had any chance of succeeding). That leaves the US with a way out if they want to proceed with the extradition - guarante…
I don't know how other countries deal with treaties, but the USA tends to ignore all the treaties it has signed unless it has also created a statute in federal or state law to enforce it.
It isn't exactly ignore, they just all have to be ratified by the Senate. Otherwise it is just the executive branch making an agreement.
Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules
#295This should be a sobering view of how the world really works. Above a certain threshold, every veneer of civilization vanishes no matter what the country (some have a higher threshold than others). At this level, only power matters. And the first rule of power is: Don't embarrass the powerful unless you can call on a lot of power to defend yourself. Laws can't protect you; they can be thwarted and bent, and the legal…
This is ridiculous.
Assange is alleged to have cooperated with a member of the US forces to release gigabytes of diplomatic cables etc. - which is possibly a crime.
In all but rare cases, you absolutely do not have the right to break into systems of national security and release arbitrary information under the guise of 'journalism'.
His extradition is perfectly rational, legal and judicially legitimate.
The Abu Garib whistleblower didn't face criminal charges, and has been relocated and protected by US Justice System, because he did the right thing, not the wrong thing.
Assange will face a trial like everyone else, he is not above the law.
While I think he's probably not guilty in this scenario, there is evidence made public that possibly points to criminality, I'm looking forward to seeing the facts of the case.
Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules
#296The framing of Assange as an innocent “journalist” being persecuted for just doing his job is, in my opinion, disingenuous. I do not necessarily agree with all the actions the US Government has taken with him, or their handling of some of the information that was leaked. However, I do not agree that a “journalist” should be able to enable espionage, let alone encourage/incite it. In case my point is unclear, I consid…
Assange is more of an editor / publisher. This is akin to the Washington Post publishing the Pentagon Papers. As a reminder, this is why the US wants to punish Assange: > Wikileaks reveals video showing US air crew shooting down Iraqi civilians > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/05/wikileaks-us-a...
Wikileaks, which Assange leads, is more than just an editor and/or publisher.
WikiLeaks helped arrange Snowden’s escape to Russia from Hong Kong. A WikiLeaks editor also accompanied Snowden to Russia, staying with him during his 39-day enforced stay at a Moscow airport and living with him for three months after Russia granted Snowden asylum.
As a reminder, the post you show isn't when the aggression against Wikileaks escalated. You reminder is not true.
Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules
#297This should be a sobering view of how the world really works. Above a certain threshold, every veneer of civilization vanishes no matter what the country (some have a higher threshold than others). At this level, only power matters. And the first rule of power is: Don't embarrass the powerful unless you can call on a lot of power to defend yourself. Laws can't protect you; they can be thwarted and bent, and the legal…
I suspect Assange doesn't regret this. I kind of get the impression that becoming a martyr was a sacrifice he was prepared to make if he managed to rip off the mask and expose the unbridled imperialist evil lurking underneath the "civilized press conference veneer" presented by the US government.
Even if that was the case at any point, I doubt that currently he's still willing to be a martyr. He now has children and a partner that I imagine he'd like to spend time with.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
It took 10 years for most powerful entity on earth, I would call that success for Snowden. Real moral of this story is from how it started. With a date and broken condom.
How many errors can fit into such a short comment!
Call it what you want. But I think international rules and his rights, were respected reasonably well. Only charges he faced for very long time were for rape. If he kept his zipper closed, while going against US gov, he could freely travel and argue political imprisonment as a journalist. He would be now drinking vodka with Snowden.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a bit of a sad sacrifice, though. Nothing (significant) has changed about the US's imperialism as a result of his disclosures, it's just mildly more acknowledged.
The sad part is how few people even know what he published, especially juxtaposed with his sacrifice. If I go talk to the average person about Snowden or Assange they know little to nothing about what they revealed.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are countries which do not bend before others. Russia, China, Iran to name a few examples. They can protect those fleeing from the West. Just like West can protect people from those countries. World is not unipolar.
Is this a joke? The entirety of those countries citizens are subject to their own government's tyrannical rule
Bend before others. In other words, they aren't follower members of a block. That says nothing about citizens or what exactly these countries are doing.