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Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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Will he be tried by a common jury or a military one? No way a common jury finds him guilty.

> No way a common jury finds him guilty I wish I could still have your faith in my fellow countrymen. Sadly I believe yours won't survive this trial.

Assuming he gets to trial, and has lawyers that understand how to use the media, I think it may be difficult to convince the entire jury to prosecute.

Rehashing US war crimes, which would certainly come up, won't be great for the prosecution either.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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post #13

Young people IMHO have no idea what's going on. In one line: Assange in 2010 revealed and gave clear proof of American war crimes in Iraq https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Collateral_Murder,_5_Apr_2010 - now the US wants him dead. That's how imperialism works. Today is a sad day for all freedom and peace lovers. Edit: just to be clear, the perpetrators of those barbarous war crimes, and their superiors, never had to face ju…

> revealed and gave clear proof of American war crimes in Iraq Honest question: are these crimes under U.S. law?

The UN has a nice document explaining what war crimes are and how they matter: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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This was inevitable to anyone who read the original ruling.

What I said 11 months ago:

" actually don't think this is such great news for him. Extradition was specifically blocked on the grounds of a particular regime he might be subjected to (to be fair, probably the only legal grounds on which he had any chance of succeeding). That leaves the US with a way out if they want to proceed with the extradition - guarantee a different set of circumstances.

If the judge had found on more substantive grounds, those would have been much more resistant to that. For instance, all the claims based on language in the extradition treaty and other international agreements failed and they failed for pretty fundamental legal reasons. English courts only have regard for domestic law and it is for parliament to pass laws consistent with the treaties that have been signed, therefore claims based on treaty language won't work.

That means that none of the claims on the political nature of his activities were upheld and those would have provided a much more robust and durable bar to extradition."

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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What rotten people are driving this, and how do we hold them accountable?

It's the same people/culture in the State Department, DOJ, and intelligence agencies who pushed that Clinton-funded Steele Dossier into the system to fabricate the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.

Assange has exposed them time and again and they want payback.

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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post #13

Young people IMHO have no idea what's going on. In one line: Assange in 2010 revealed and gave clear proof of American war crimes in Iraq https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Collateral_Murder,_5_Apr_2010 - now the US wants him dead. That's how imperialism works. Today is a sad day for all freedom and peace lovers. Edit: just to be clear, the perpetrators of those barbarous war crimes, and their superiors, never had to face ju…

> revealed and gave clear proof of American war crimes in Iraq Honest question: are these crimes under U.S. law?

War crimes would generally refer to breaching international treaty and/or conventions. The "Patriot" Act rebranded torture/abduction so as to not fall foul of these. "Advanced interrogation techniques" ....

Re: Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, court rules

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post #5

Will he be tried by a common jury or a military one? No way a common jury finds him guilty.

>Will he be tried by a common jury or a military one? No way a common jury finds him guilty.

Neither. This is the Espionage Act, so he's going to the spy court. Those doors will be closed and the jury will consist of people who work for the government. The court case will be over way way faster than you might expect.

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