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The Million Dollar Question

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Re: The Million Dollar Question

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post #39

"Why won't you?" Indeed. I created this HN user almost two years ago, before I applied to YC. In these two years I did pretty much nothing towards my goal, except reading HN, nodding in agreement over good posts, and bookmarking stuff on Delicious, adding to the hundreds I already have. What stops me? Fear? No, I just know I can be successful with my idea. Laziness? Maybe, but I've worked 18 hr days on projects I lik…

Man, you hit the nail on the head. I, too, have been struggling with this for years. I move slowly, and know others who are absolutely paralyzed. That's the part of the article I identified with. The part about being misunderstood doesn't apply. Everyone I know, even in the suburbs, grasps the concept of entrepreneurship as a life choice, even if they don't have the courage to try it.

I used to wonder, What's keeping me from working hard on this? Now, I think the problem is not that there is something slowing me down, it's that I'm not accountable for anything related to my own project. There are no deadlines. My consulting work carries me, so there's an infinite runway. There's no pressure to start. When I finally start, and really ramp up, somebody comes to me with a paying gig. That feels like an annoyance, an interruption, but I succumb, because it offers accountability. And maybe because it's easier than my own project. And rent ain't free.

How do we obtain (or fake) accountability? I think the answer is a cofounder, but where I'm at (SoCal) they're tough to find, and coming to the table with a specific technology stack (Java) and idea makes it even harder.

Still, I'm not giving up yet.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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It proves, once again, that extrinsic motivation does not work.

If you help someone achieve a goal, they will owe you some of their success, lessening their own merit.

On the opposite, as this story shows, the intrinsic motivation can make you do stuff that you thought impossible: http://www.maximise.dk/blog/2009/04/moving-boat.html

So maybe to help people achieve their dream, you have to tell them that it can't be done, that it's impossible.

This would be a truly altruistic way to help people, since you can't claim any part of their success in that case. All they will tell you will be "I told you it can be done!".

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you might be misunderstanding the post - or at least interpreting it differently than me. I dont' think it's so much about success as it's about being different. Once you step over the cliff into the unknown there aren't that many people that will follow you. You become a loner, a misfit and a stranger to many people. Your desires, goals and interests drift away from normality, and thus you will eventually fi…

This -- it's not that he's saying you can't be happy. He's saying it's like moving to a distant land, before there was even mail service. Your communication with the people who are emotionally close to you will begin to fray and finally (in most cases) stop altogether. You have to start over -- make new friends, begin a new life. You can't have the happy Truman-show-esque comfort things; they just aren't available to…

I think you have 'issues' if you can't be friends with people who live life a bit differently than you do. Those sound like very artificial barriers to me.

Perhaps you won't be 'best friends forever' or something, but it's healthy to have a variety of people in your social circle.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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Almost every millionaire I know is married with kids and living in the suburbs. Unless you win the lottery or are a professional skateboarder, becoming rich is more like boring suburban reality than being an international flaneur. (Interestingly, the rich pro skaters I know all live in the suburbs with their kids, too) As someone who has also floated around a lot, even through Japan, it's an interesting lifestyle but…

What do you mean by millionaire ?

To me you're a millionaire when you have one million of assets excluding your residence.

That's a lot of money but that's not quite the same as having forty millions.

Reaching the one-million bar requires a lot of hard work, reaching the forty-millions bar requires a lot of hard work and sacrifices.

If your friends still have a regular job they're most likely at the first bar only.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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There are lots of bugs in peoples' brains that prevent them from doing things that seem like good ideas, and I don't think the fear of becoming illegible ( http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2011/07/31/on-being-an-illegible-p... ) is anywhere near the most important one. My vote for the most important bug is as follows. It looks as though human brains were architected to think in two modes: "near" mode and "far" mode. The rea…

Chrome Nanny link seems to be correct (Google Search suggests the same), but it actually doesn't work. Has it been removed from the Chrome Store just recently?

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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post #39

"Why won't you?" Indeed. I created this HN user almost two years ago, before I applied to YC. In these two years I did pretty much nothing towards my goal, except reading HN, nodding in agreement over good posts, and bookmarking stuff on Delicious, adding to the hundreds I already have. What stops me? Fear? No, I just know I can be successful with my idea. Laziness? Maybe, but I've worked 18 hr days on projects I lik…

What stops me? Fear? No, I just know I can be successful with my idea.

Is fear of no success the only possible fear involved?

So what? I don't know.

You aren't likely to find the answer to what stops /you/ out on the Internet, only in your head.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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Great writing, but here is a quibble regarding the "...pretty girl, maybe 23 years old. She’s not beautiful... she’ll... be a very good wife for someone."

Ouch. I know he's just day-dreaming there, and his point is that she is a "normal" person. But why define her success in terms of being a "wife for someone"? She could -already- be an incredibly successful, independent person living life on her own terms, making her own rules.

And for all we know, she may be just as alienated from normalcy as the author. Sorry to nitpick but this hit home for me.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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I really liked this post. Sebastian continues to develop his conversational style. Very nice. Asshole consultant inside of me kept nodding early on: "You just don't get it, Sebastian! Charge more!" You see, there's a very sad truth consultants learn early on: it doesn't matter how much you know that can help somebody. All that matters is how much influence you can have. The reason some consultants charge ten times wh…

Care to offer any tips on how to get started with this $10k/day gig? Pretty eager to walk in that particular door.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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I really enjoyed this article. I'm not actually convinced that the answer is a fear of not being understood by others, but it's very close or the writing wouldn't resonate the way it does. The problem is that I know lots of people who couldn't give the slightest damn about fitting in, or who are already occupied in a field far enough from societal norms that their job description takes a whiteboard and a venn diagram on a good day.

I wish I could remember who said this; I think it was M. Scott Peck, but I can't find the reference: we are attached to our own mental model of ourselves. So attached that we will fight to maintain that model even if it's useless or actively harmful.

An example: have you ever noticed that if someone's depressed, complimenting them doesn't work? Have you noticed that you yourself feel awkward when others compliment you? That might seem obvious, but only because you've absorbed it through repeated exposure. Think about it: why in the world would someone saying good things about you feel uncomfortable? Shouldn't it be basically the best thing you can get?

The answer is that when you're thinking "I'm average looking at best" and someone says "you're beautiful!" it's like someone just tried to rip your left brain from your right. How can you possibly reconcile these two things? You have to either destroy your own sense of self or reject the person's compliment.

I suspect that in this case what looks like fear that the world will misunderstand you is actually fear that you misunderstand yourself. Jumping head-first into a crazy idea isn't just changing what you do; it's changing who you are, and that's goddamn terrifying.

Re: The Million Dollar Question

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The call to action on this post seems to be stop worrying about the fact that you will not be understood and go ahead with your plans. I am curious. Does the fear of not fitting in outweigh the benefits of financial freedom? I dont know the answer to this question since I have never been in that situation, so I thought I would ask.

(Bear in mind I'm going into biomedical research, which is a very different field than CS or Entrepreneurship, which seem to make up the majority of HN users) For me it's not the fear of not fitting in, per se, but the loneliness that comes with being misunderstood by those around you. I find that the point he made of not being understood when I started to pursue my career aspirations rings very true. I wouldn't blam…

First of all, thanks for taking the time to write up the detailed answer to my question. While reading it, I realized that the OP was talking about fear of not fitting in DURING the process of achieving success, not after. That makes more sense and your position made me aware of that.

Regarding your fear of the unknown, I would say (as would anybody) that this is only natural. The best thing we can do is constantly remind ourselves of something that encourages us. I look to Frost's beautiful poem "The Road Not Taken", especially the ending stanza:

  I shall be telling this with a sigh
  Somewhere ages and ages hence:
  Two roads diverged in a wood and I -
  I took the one less traveled by,
  And that has made all the difference.
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