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A few others, including myself, were like... um guys, this browser is created by a company that makes its money from advertising that shows in browsers, do you really think this is going to turn out well?
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There is still "block request" functionality, the change is that it's now declarative. This is the same way it works in Safari, and is (a) more efficient because you don't need to execute JS to evaluate each request and (b) more private because an ad/content blocker doesn't need to be given such broad permissions. There are serious tradeoffs (no request time js makes it less flexible) but it's still very capable and…
> (Disclosure: I work on ads at Google, speaking only for myself) Thank you for letting us know you have a giant material conflict of interest and we shouldn't trust anything you say.
There is still "block request" functionality, the change is that it's now declarative. This is the same way it works in Safari, and is (a) more efficient because you don't need to execute JS to evaluate each request and (b) more private because an ad/content blocker doesn't need to be given such broad permissions. There are serious tradeoffs (no request time js makes it less flexible) but it's still very capable and easily can be used to block Google ads. Docs: https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/reference/decla...
(Disclosure: I don't work at Google or on ads anywhere, speaking only for myself)
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I, as an end user want to be able to install whatever dangerous software I want, especially as a power user. I understand the potential consequences and I don't want or need the handrails. Options and freedom are good. This is why browsers need to be split off from for profit organizations to be managed by entities that aren't concerned with the fallout if someone installs malicious software.
I don't think this is a great path, though. Extensions like uBlock Origin should not only be available to people like us, who understand the risk of giving extensions more permissions, and would (hypothetically) have to click through some scary warning dialogs or edit config files to allow it. Your average-Joe user probably needs extensions like this even more than we do in order to remain secure on the web.
I think browsers should be moved away from for profit organizations to separate non corporate stewardship. With that you remove the overall susceptibility to fallout and can try to give more freedom over the features a browser has or how deeply extensions can integrate, for everyone. You also obviously remove the immediate monetary incentive to restrict freedoms.
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The safari change absolutely kneecapped content blockers. Ublock dropped it[0], and the remaining few providers, like AdGuard, have to do all sorts of trickery[1] to get even close to the same performance. If you're going to argue this is better, don't point us to such a clearly worse result. [0]: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158 [1]: https://adguard.com/en/blog/safari-adblock-extensions.html
I'm not arguing that V3 is better -- I think that's a complicated question, and I was trying to describe some of the tradeoffs. What I am arguing is that V3 does, contra my parent, support request blocking.
It is not a question that V3 breaks the gold standard privacy protecting extension.
To anyone saying "just use Firefox", I would think again. I think Firefox is (marginally) better than Chrome, but they are also pulling some of the same bullshit: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/20736
A technical decision (on mobile) you didn’t bother looking into is not even remotely in the same ballpark as what google does. Calling firefox marginally better than chrome is just dishonest, and frankly ridiculous.
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I’m sure you are an honest person working in good faith. But we saw very similar behavior from Google around AMP. They had a very narrow reasonable sounding explanation, and just ignored all criticism and requests from both users and publishers that didn’t fit their narrative. This went on for years. Today we know AMP was also a anticompetitive plot to kill off header bidding. Why should we to believe a word of what…
> Today we know AMP was also a anticompetitive plot to kill off header bidding. I completely disagree, and I think this will become clear as information continues to come out.
The article is not exactly well written. I don't really follow web developments anymore because the web, well, sucks; So, after reading, I'm still not even sure what "manifest v3" is about and why I should care. I know websites track me. I know I get tons of ads. I know websites popup questions about cookies. I know they play videos that follow me around when I scroll. I know sometime in the past that shit would've b…
It's for Browser extensions. Chrome extensions (and also Firefox and Safari). a fail called the "Manifest" that tells Chrome and the extension about the extension and contains all it's permission requests. Eg: "This extensions wants to modify all webpages", which is what ad blockers need to do. Going forward extensions in the Chrome Web store will have to use Manifest v3. Which has less capabilities than previous ver…
I remember the old days when HN users would promote the hell out of chrome. They loved it, couldn't get enough of it. A few others, including myself, were like... um guys, this browser is created by a company that makes its money from advertising that shows in browsers, do you really think this is going to turn out well?
I remember the old days when HN users would promote the hell out of chrome. They loved it, couldn't get enough of it. A few others, including myself, were like... um guys, this browser is created by a company that makes its money from advertising that shows in browsers, do you really think this is going to turn out well?
I remember the old days when HN users would promote the hell out of chrome. They loved it, couldn't get enough of it. A few others, including myself, were like... um guys, this browser is created by a company that makes its money from advertising that shows in browsers, do you really think this is going to turn out well?