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Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by MonadIsPronad » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:26 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #9

Bari Weiss is hardly a neutral (or reasonable) voice. Flagged.

In fairness, the article isn't written by Weiss.

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by giantg2 » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:27 PM UTC

Walking and spraying multiple houses... I was surprise there was no return fire, then I saw it was CA.

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by MonadIsPronad » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:28 PM UTC

Good article. Nice calm tone, interesting points. Seems like a good addition to the conversation.

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by aejnsn » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:29 PM UTC

You get what you pay for.

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by the_cat_kittles » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:29 PM UTC

this article has no content. just show some contextualized statistics of how police funding correlates with crime. in seattle, it really hasnt from what ive seen. but if you have compelling numbers, go ahead

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by _dain_ » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:30 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #9

Bari Weiss is hardly a neutral (or reasonable) voice. Flagged.

this isn't wikipedia

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by pengaru » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:33 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #12

Walking and spraying multiple houses... I was surprise there was no return fire, then I saw it was CA.

> I was surprise there was no return fire, then I saw it was CA.

I'm in CA and am surrounded by neighbors with guns, for better or worse. If you think CA is devoid of gun owners you're sorely mistaken.

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by scrollbar » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:33 PM UTC

I read most of the article, in which the author implies that defunding the police increases crime, and blames the people in charge of Oakland with this crime.

Yet I recalled hearing that police budgets in Oakland were steady to up this year, despite the protests.

A quick search seems to confirm this: https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-didnt-cut-any-money-from-t...

>Despite claims to the contrary, the Oakland City Council did not make any cuts to the police budget at all this year. In fact, Oakland police were allotted about $39 million more than in the previous two years, according to a KTVU analysis of city records.

What did I miss?

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by terminatornet » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:34 PM UTC

MonadIsPronad wrote: post #11

r00fus wrote: post #9

Bari Weiss is hardly a neutral (or reasonable) voice. Flagged.

In fairness, the article isn't written by Weiss.

it's hosted on her substack, so I think we can assume it's probably an opinion endorsed by her

Re: Defund the Police meets the crime wave

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Post by reanimus » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 10:35 PM UTC

scrollbar wrote: post #18

I read most of the article, in which the author implies that defunding the police increases crime, and blames the people in charge of Oakland with this crime. Yet I recalled hearing that police budgets in Oakland were steady to up this year, despite the protests. A quick search seems to confirm this: https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-didnt-cut-any-money-from-t... >Despite claims to the contrary, the Oakland City Coun…

You're right on the mark. A lot of articles scare-mongering about defunding the police point to numbers in places that haven't seen any defunding (quite the contrary, many of them have had boosts to their budgets, as usual).