Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Post by wara23arish » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 9:26 PM UTC

misiti3780 wrote: post #127

slibhb wrote: post #85

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Calling him a conman given what he has achieved with electric cars and rockets is absurd. That's coming from a place of envy or resentment. Musk over-promises, and often, but what he delivers is impressive even if it doesn't meet his promises. Therefore he's no conman. The more interesting question is whether the over-promising is necessary if you want to achieve something substantial. Politicians certainly seem to t…

A large portion of the users here are jealous of what he has achieved, and it's very obvious by the pile-on negativity any time an article with Musk in the text comes up. You would have to be delusion to call him a con-man in 2021, but yet it is still happening. Oh well, as Taylor Swift famously wrote "haters gonna hate"

I think I have met someone jealous like you mentioned . Within 2 hours of meeting them, Somehow the new austin gigafactory was brought up and they started to attack Musk to paint him as a failure. Just citing random tidbits and facts.

I didn’t really argue since I am not that invested nor do i think Musks needs me to defend his reputation lol.

Im not really on twitter or social media anymore except for occasional HN, so this took me by surprise but I guess this is more common than I thought.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Post by dragontamer » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 9:32 PM UTC

slibhb wrote: post #168

dragontamer wrote: post #156

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This strategy is called "The old Razzle Dazzle": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3MIixEps4 Its well known to work. We all know it works, and there are a myriad of examples throughout US history (and maybe even in other countries). Just because it works doesn't mean its moral. ------- Leverage your popularity, start fights in the public, get the common people low-key interested (but not interested enough to actually…

Whether this process is justifiable or moral is an interesting question. A second question is whether there's any alternative (I doubt it). One thing's for sure: the border between "vision" and "lie" is hard to figure out.

The line is crossed when you start demeaning honest people to get your idea out there. A line that Elon has crossed many years ago.

Pedo-Scuba Diver, COVID19 denial to keep the Fremont factory open, $39,990 Cybertruck, SEC flaunting / breaking of rules, etc. etc.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Post by dragonwriter » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 11:24 PM UTC

diebeforei485 wrote: post #153

dragonwriter wrote: post #145

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> California High Speed Rail practically killed itself. Except it's still actively being built.

Right. Madera to Bakersfield by 2035. This project is a joke and everyone knows it - choosing the route for political reasons, appointing politically connected sham contractors like Tutor Perini, declining the SNCF proposal to run this along I-5 instead, etc. Texas will likely get its high-speed rail well before we do.

> Madera to Bakersfield by 2035.

The current target, per the most recent business plan, is Merced to Bakersfield by the end of the decade, Silicon Valley to Central Valley (SF to Bakersfield) by 2031, and the Phase 1 system (SF to LA) by 2033. There is also work with Brightline West (the private developer of a Victorville to Las Vegas line) to jointly extend that line so that it interconnects with the Phase 1 system in Southern California, forming a combined SF-LA-LV system.

> Texas will likely get its high-speed rail well before we do.

Well, I mean, its a shorter and easier line with an earlier current planned operation date, with fewer bookend and station projects, so that wouldn’t be surprising, but they keep pushing out the construction start date while California keeps building, so I wouldn’t bet on it.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Post by givemeethekeys » Thu, Dec 09, 2021, 11:40 PM UTC

hunterb123 wrote: post #163

givemeethekeys wrote: post #162

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One can adjust a radio before they start driving. After that, there are volume controls and other physical controls available for adjustments without taking one's eyes off the road. Videogames on the other hand require the driver's complete attention while the car is still moving. If a manufacturer installs video games for the driver to be able to play while they're driving, then yes, they should be held liable for a…

The video game isn't for the driver, it's for the passenger. One can play the video game before they start driving. One could also fiddle with the radio knob while they are driving and kill someone. Just as one could play a video game on their phone or this screen while they are driving and kill someone. The common denominator is the person not paying attention to the road, punish that person. If I watch porn while d…

They only get one screen in the Tesla. If it was a separate screen for the passengers to be gaming in.

But Elon cheap, so we're having this stupid conversation.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Post by manicdee » Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 11:26 PM UTC

hunterb123 wrote: post #165

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Games being played on the screen in front of the driver is not a good idea, it’s just another distraction with motion and blinking lights that even the most disciplined driver can’t ignore.

It's not in front of the driver and if you can't keep your eyes on the road then you shouldn't be driving anyway. I hope many people in this thread aren't driving.

Human vision is the problem here, not bad drivers.

Are you going to accuse pilots of being bad at their jobs when they can't fly a plane while a laser is pointed in their eyes?