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Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

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Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

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post #27

Wait FF is copying this too?!?

Web Extensions have never had a spec before. So of course Google is taking the initiative to aggressively re-define & cut down what an extension is, at the exact moment they try to turn it into a cross-browser standard.

Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

#33
post #22
post #15

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Chrome allows you to disable installation of extensions via Group Policy for a looong time now: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/66239/how-to-pr...

That's windows-only, right?

IIRC you can apply it on macOS via MDM / configuration profiles, but that's not as simple as gpedit.msc.

Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

#34
post #18
post #9

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Firefox also implemented DRM.

I needed them to do that so I could watch Netflix. Debate it all you want, but it made my life measurably better and I'm glad they did it. This would only negatively effect me (and everyone else).

How is your life measurably better, by comparing it with other people's fake and perfect and amazing lives (in Netflix videos)?

Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

#35
post #12

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Please Firefox. The first two are just Chrome wrappers.

You realize Firefox only exists because it serves Google's interests right? And while Brave might be based on Chromium, it is distinct; in addition to not crippling nativewebrequest as chrome will, it's native adblocker is compatible with the same lists as ublock origin. So I would go with Brave :)

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Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

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post #9
post #6

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My assumption is that Firefox will be implementing the standard, but not the restrictions. Am I wrong there?

Firefox also implemented DRM.

DRM doesn't limit anything for the user except for some video content. The day DRM prevents doing things to requests and such, like Manifext v3 does, then I will care. Right now, I'm happy to be able to watch One Punch Man on my laptop.

Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

#39
post #15
post #11

If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.

Chrome allows you to disable installation of extensions via Group Policy for a looong time now: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/66239/how-to-pr...

but sadly Group Policy is not available on Windows Home edition

Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening

#40
post #7

I have a couple of popular extensions on the line, and I no longer see a way to stop Google without immediate government intervention. I am confident that they are not acting entirely in good faith, regardless of the much needed and useful parts of Manifest V3. They will get away with anything, be fined again in a couple of years for the growing list of illegalities they commit, and now they'll also harm the browser…

Make them first class Firefox extensions.

I mean you can, but firefox doesn't treat you any better. We waited 2+ months to get a minor update through review, and getting it through that quickly took emailing several folks (including one from HN). During that whole process they also removed the display of your queue position, making it even more opaque.

At some point they disliked something in our extension that had been live for months, and disabled every release in the past year. At another point they found something wanting in a 2 year old release (not a recent one) and threatened to remove it from the store, our attempts to continue that conversation or just allow it to be pulled to save everyone some time met with crickets.

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