If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.
Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening
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Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening
#12I've been using Chrome for such a long time now (since like a year after it launched), out of convenience and because it used to be fast (and more secure). It's definitely time to switch. I think my main alternatives are Brave, Vivaldi and Firefox.
Please Firefox. The first two are just Chrome wrappers.
Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening
#13So I guess someone will have to come up with a turn-key pihole-alike?
Not even close to a replacement for the type of active, context-aware evaluation uBlock can do.
Additionally, if a solution like Pi-hole was ever sufficiently mainstream, more sites would start serving their ads from the same hostname as the page. It's not difficult to do with the CDN providers most media sites already use.
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#14If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.
Point is they get to make ad blocking harder.
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#15If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.
Chrome allows you to disable installation of extensions via Group Policy for a looong time now: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/66239/how-to-pr...
Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening
#16If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.
Point is they get to make ad blocking harder.
lol, well, yeah.
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#17If Chrome can kill uBlock and use its dominance to do user-hostile stuff, and Firefox goes along "in the interest of cross-browser compatibility", then what the hell's the point of Firefox in the first place?
My assumption is that Firefox will be implementing the standard, but not the restrictions. Am I wrong there?
I'd guess even if Firefox did keep extensions unrestricted then slowly they would die away - given how much smaller the user base will be. We need some new power to emerge in this space.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
My assumption is that Firefox will be implementing the standard, but not the restrictions. Am I wrong there?
Firefox also implemented DRM.
I needed them to do that so I could watch Netflix. Debate it all you want, but it made my life measurably better and I'm glad they did it. This would only negatively effect me (and everyone else).
Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening
#19If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.
Chrome allows you to disable installation of extensions via Group Policy for a looong time now: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/66239/how-to-pr...
I'm just not smart enough to figure that out. That first answer references steps that don't exist on any Chromebook I've ever seen. So I assume I have to enroll the machine in a group policy externally? I have no idea. Never been able to figure it out. I usually just end up installing an extension (oh, the irony) that blocks the extensions domain. :/
Re: Chrome users beware: Manifest v3 is deceitful and threatening
#20If Google actually gave a crap about security, they would let you disable extensions. As it is, I have to routinely delete malicious extensions from every family member's Chromebook. Lord knows how they get there, but they always do. Since this new standard still lets extensions observe everything, I don't see what the point is.
This post carries a lot of water for user-hating user-blaming anti-extensions.
I'm sorry that your family are... having such a hard time making reasonable choices for themselves. I have literally never seen this anywhere, or heard any coworker ever report their family rampantly adding shitty extensions. I tend to see pretty clear & obvious signals about what extensions are good & ok when I go to consume. Bad extensions seem to be discovered fairly quickly & taken down. The world seems no where near as grimdark as you project to me.
Alas I think it requires a paid Google Enterprise account, but your family sounds like their need external management of their browsers. That they should, like a school computer, have an administrator & a denylist or perhaps even allowlist of what extensions they can use.
This post spreads so much Fear Uncertainty and Doubt. Trying to justifying ending a good thing because some creative user keeps finding a way to misuse, to not listen to sense, to not make good judgement... I find it unfortunate that such heavy fearmongering, such terror at the world is allowed to sway us so heavily.
Ultimately I want 3rd party sites hosting extensions. Not Google. And I want moderation teams able to surface claims that some extensions are bad. We need more choice, more democracy, more ability to help each other. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Simply giving in to the bed-wetting terror of, oh no, freedom & denying ourselves user-agency is intellectual suicide for the web.