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Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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Front page of all the news site is not all that low profile.

I just opened the front pages of CNN, Fox News, BBC News and NBC News and found the Maxwell case either completely uncovered on the front pages, opinion-only coverage, coverage of only this particular Twitter story, tabloid nonsense or coverage buried so far down the page in a sidebar it may as well not be there. That seems pretty poor to me for such a high profile case. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/78aNg1b

Funny it’s getting huge coverage in UK media

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Epstein's murder and subsequent cover-up strongly imply that other prominent people were involved

What makes you so confident that Epstein was murdered?

Have you looked into it? I mean even the author of Skeptic magazine went through it and thought it was very credible that he was murdered.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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> We as of yet have no real proof any prominent people besides Prince Andrew may be tangentially implicated Isn’t that a reason to follow the case?

Not in the US. The US audience doesn't really care about the UK royal family. And in the UK, the media is constrained by stronger libel laws such that they'll sit on their haunches in terms of reporting on things in the case until they are considered factual enough to withstand a UK libel suit. Allegations thrown about in a foreign court of law don't meet that bar.

What? This case is all over Uk media

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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> more credible people aren't being suspended yes, but this one was the most popular. If they're looking at suppressing news or attention, they'd want to ban the most popular, not the most credible necessarily.

That doesn't seem right to me - they're saying this account had something like 500k followers (which, again, let's assume that's true) you're going to see reporting from WSJ, NYT, WashPo etc. all of whom have millions of follows. Even some basic reporters have way larger followings - for example I don't know who this guy is: https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec but he's got 1.5m followers and seems to be very active repo…

Posobiec is an independent citizen journalist (who just happens to be a navy intel officer).

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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Since you care deeply about the HN community, you should refrain from posting low-quality comments and breaking the site guidelines. As they point out, the way to deal with egregious comments is to not reply, to downvote/flag, and possibly email us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can take a look. Otherwise we just end up in a tedious, offtopic spiral.

The discussion here focused on a single spam account being banned from Twitter, flagging comments and suspecting accounts promoting conspiracy theories validates that disgusting worldview (that big tech has a nefarious connection to underaged trafficking). But as the other comment said I do appreciate your civility. I would like to point out this tedious off topic spiral has the benefit of refusing the engage the dan…

Ok, but the cost of tedious downward spirals greatly exceeds the benefit. Much better is not to feed them. We all need to just accept wrongness on the internet as a cost of doing internet on the internet. Fighting it amplifies it.

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What makes you so confident that Epstein was murdered?

Have you looked into it? I mean even the author of Skeptic magazine went through it and thought it was very credible that he was murdered.

Yes. I have read about it. I have skepticism about it. I am wondering how anyone could be so confident.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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The discussion here focused on a single spam account being banned from Twitter, flagging comments and suspecting accounts promoting conspiracy theories validates that disgusting worldview (that big tech has a nefarious connection to underaged trafficking). But as the other comment said I do appreciate your civility. I would like to point out this tedious off topic spiral has the benefit of refusing the engage the dan…

Ok, but the cost of tedious downward spirals greatly exceeds the benefit. Much better is not to feed them. We all need to just accept wrongness on the internet as a cost of doing internet on the internet. Fighting it amplifies it.

I think that's the fundamental disagreement. I think fighting it through dressing down is most effective. Conspiracy theories thrive on politeness, and masking harmful leaps of faith as innocent conversation. Mockery quickly points out the inherent bad faith of the premise. I don't think open platforms have to cater to such extremism.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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post #385

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Ok, but the cost of tedious downward spirals greatly exceeds the benefit. Much better is not to feed them. We all need to just accept wrongness on the internet as a cost of doing internet on the internet. Fighting it amplifies it.

I think that's the fundamental disagreement. I think fighting it through dressing down is most effective. Conspiracy theories thrive on politeness, and masking harmful leaps of faith as innocent conversation. Mockery quickly points out the inherent bad faith of the premise. I don't think open platforms have to cater to such extremism.

The site guidelines are clear on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

HN is one kind of site (the kind where that's not ok) and not the other. I get that not everyone agrees with the guidelines or would design a community to be this way, and that's fine—there's room for many different kinds of community, including many that haven't been created yet. We're going to enforce the rules of this one, though.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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post #388

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I think that's the fundamental disagreement. I think fighting it through dressing down is most effective. Conspiracy theories thrive on politeness, and masking harmful leaps of faith as innocent conversation. Mockery quickly points out the inherent bad faith of the premise. I don't think open platforms have to cater to such extremism.

The site guidelines are clear on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . HN is one kind of site (the kind where that's not ok) and not the other. I get that not everyone agrees with the guidelines or would design a community to be this way, and that's fine—there's room for many different kinds of community, including many that haven't been created yet. We're going to enforce the rules of this one, th…

That's a valid perspective and I find this community to be a place of interesting content and discussion the majority of the time. Obviously my comment was flagged, and looking at the original parent I replies reveals a vast array of discussion circling around dangerous speculation and paranoia, so whatever goals I aimed to accomplish failed.

Oh well, it's ultimately just the internet, I have to believe people are good enough not to become radicalized. Worrying about these issues is more likely to get me banned then to generate anything productive.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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post #371

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That's not even a relevant question - the excuse given by Twitter was "the account was “artificially” amplifying information" not "bots were 'artificially' amplifying the account"

Did you speak with twitter directly? Who provided you with this excuse?

sigh can't even bother reading the thread?
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