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Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Hydrogen Fuel Cells and probably more widespread PHEVs. I am unconvinced by the case for hydrogen fuel cells or PHEVs. 10-million cars with 200lbs of Li-ion batteries each would save more energy from our transportation network than 2-million cars with 1000lbs of Li-ion batteries each. The correct answer is the reduction of cars. Taking 10 million cars off the road and switching to public transit and higher density su…

Mr. Musk was pretty integral in his role of killing the California High Speed Rail project. He created a fake solution, the Hyperloop, to steal hype away, and then never built the Hyperloop. Thereby killing the mass-transit solution of California. ------ I stand by my assertion. Mr. Musk is no longer useful for the environmental cause. He is decidedly anti-progress at this point. A few years ago it was somewhat ambig…

> Mr. Musk was pretty integral in his role of killing the California High Speed Rail project.

It’s not even approximately dead, so Musk having been integral in killing it doesn't seem to be either true or meaningful.

As for creating the false impression it was killed, that was mostly Newsome’s announcement shortly after taking office that described no substantive changes (it literally boiled down to “we’re going to keep building the parts we have funding to build, keep doing planning/EIRs/etc. on the rest, and not do construction on parts not currently funded until construction funding is secured”) but was widely misinterpreted, not Musk, that was responsible for that.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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> Laugh and point fingers. The methods work, regardless of the feelings about them. No. "Battery Swap" was a lie that was never delivered and frankly just stole money from California. We all know that __lying__ works. The last few years have made it abundantly clear that the general population is far more accepting of these lies than I'm comfortable for. So I'm going to keep pointing them out.

> "Battery Swap" was a lie that was never delivered Sorry, but this can be disproved with a single Google search. They did have a battery swap station (between SF and LA), but there was minimal interest from customers. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-shuts-down-battery-swap-prog...

https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-tesla-batter...

> A Tesla spokesperson said the Harris Ranch facility is functional, but that battery swaps are only being done on a limited fleet of Tesla cars.

> “We are currently running the pilot with a small number of Model S,” said Tesla’s Khobi Brooklyn. “It’s open to a small number of Model S owners.”

> What is the point of a Tesla battery swap program that isn’t actually swapping batteries for Tesla owners?

> It could have something to do with California’s Air Resources Board and its complicated system of zero-emission vehicle credits.

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They opened a singular facility that operated at a loss for a few months, and then shut it down. With no intent on ever mass-producing this technology or dropping the costs down to be a long term sustainable solution.

They accomplished just enough to take the California tax credit, and then never spoke of it again.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Fuel Cells are the scam. The cheapest way to make hydrogen fuel is through fracking. It's dirty under the top-level. So it's "no emissions" but still relies on the planet-killing petroleum fuel chain. If you think PHEVs are somehow constrained by EVs - you have no idea of the patent forests Toyota and others have built on hybrid tech. It's not the lithium that's stopping PHEVs.

And the cheapest source of electricity is coal. So its not like your EV-powered vehicle (largely using coal to power itself) is much better. In any case, widespread electrolysis of Hydrogen is well researched and well on its way to being achieved: https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-el... There was a good article or two on some systems developed that were direct from solar-power into hydrogen, s…

Even if "steam reformation" (greenwashed name for hydrogen from fossil fuels) is no longer used, electrolysis of water still requires transporting water to a hydrogen plant, purifying it, electrolyzing it, and then compressing or liquefying the hydrogen for transport, and transporting the hydrogen to stations around the world.

I could see this being used for airplanes because there aren't very many airports (it's far better than avgas which contains lead, and it's probably better than jet fuel?). But there is basically nowhere outside the far far north where this could be anywhere close to being as good as electricity for cars. Even in Norway today, electric is far more popular than hydorgen.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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And the cheapest source of electricity is coal. So its not like your EV-powered vehicle (largely using coal to power itself) is much better. In any case, widespread electrolysis of Hydrogen is well researched and well on its way to being achieved: https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-el... There was a good article or two on some systems developed that were direct from solar-power into hydrogen, s…

Coal isn't the cheapest power anymore. Your information is out of date [1]. Electrolysis or solar hydrogen production still isn't even here, much less cheaper than fracking. [1] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/renewables-cheapest-e...

Forward looking statements are no different than a $39,900 Cybertruck.

They're correct as far as my discussion point is concerned. A possibility of the future, the benefits of being forward looking.

It may not exist, but the point of the statement is to be parity with Elon Musk's discussion style. Not to be on parity with the actual truth. That's the problem: Mr. Musk imagines the future and his discussions are apparently fine. But snap back to reality and suddenly everyone else (who is working on realistic numbers) is wrong.

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Electrolysis could exist, and it could be cheap. Much like how a $39000 Cybertruck could exist in enough numbers to warrant customers putting down reservation money on it.

Its the name of the game and you know it if you've followed how this discussion evolves. Yes, I feel icky using that kind of logic but its necessary in this age.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Mr. Musk was pretty integral in his role of killing the California High Speed Rail project. He created a fake solution, the Hyperloop, to steal hype away, and then never built the Hyperloop. Thereby killing the mass-transit solution of California. ------ I stand by my assertion. Mr. Musk is no longer useful for the environmental cause. He is decidedly anti-progress at this point. A few years ago it was somewhat ambig…

Nonsense. California High Speed Rail practically killed itself.

> California High Speed Rail practically killed itself.

Except it's still actively being built.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Nonsense. California High Speed Rail practically killed itself.

> California High Speed Rail practically killed itself. Except it's still actively being built.

I hope you're right and I wish the project the best. I'm no where near California, but I think rail (and high-speed rail in particular) is one of the most efficient means of transportation devised, and should be deployed and supported.

In any case, Mr. Musk has not been helpful to the cause at all.

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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> "Battery Swap" was a lie that was never delivered Sorry, but this can be disproved with a single Google search. They did have a battery swap station (between SF and LA), but there was minimal interest from customers. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-shuts-down-battery-swap-prog...

https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-tesla-batter... > A Tesla spokesperson said the Harris Ranch facility is functional, but that battery swaps are only being done on a limited fleet of Tesla cars. > “We are currently running the pilot with a small number of Model S,” said Tesla’s Khobi Brooklyn. “It’s open to a small number of Model S owners.” > What is the point of a Tesla battery swap program that isn’…

Yeah, they invited a few people at first, then opened it to every Tesla owner in California, and basically nobody was interested. Supercharging was fast enough for most people, and it didn't make sense to scale out something that almost nobody was interested in.

Another notable change at that time was adding the underbody plate[1] for increased fire safety, which made the swap take longer than it otherwise would. These were offered free of charge to customers and there was very high uptake.

[1] https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-adds-titanium-underbody-shi...

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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> California High Speed Rail practically killed itself. Except it's still actively being built.

I hope you're right and I wish the project the best. I'm no where near California, but I think rail (and high-speed rail in particular) is one of the most efficient means of transportation devised, and should be deployed and supported. In any case, Mr. Musk has not been helpful to the cause at all.

> > Except it's still actively being built.

> I hope you're right

If I’m not, the California High Speed Rail Authority is doing some next-level gaslighting.

https://buildhsr.com/

Re: Tesla Update Allows Video Games While Driving, and the Feds Aren’t Happy

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Tesla autopilot use nowhere near competitive with a human driver, no matter what they claim. I'm bullish on self-driving in general, but Tesla's misrepresentation of their self-driving capability has always been just shy of "fraud".

This is true of surface streets: on freeways, even the older “Autopilot” is pretty good: I’ve driven on-ramp to off-ramp like 60 miles without a disengagement.

I've driven from an on ramp in Gilroy to an off ramp in Palo Alto without once touching either pedal.

Only it wasn't in a tesla, it was in a reasonably recent ICE toyota with adaptive cruise control and lane keeping.

So what was your point about FSD again?

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