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Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by chalst »

npteljes wrote: post #43
edent wrote: post #31

Good? What's the alternative? Have a crappy, paid-for, add filled, bloated app promote itself as "Cauliflower Cooker Lite - the #1 free cauliflower app. 100% ad-free". Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

The alternative I'd like is making common user expectations into formalized properties of the software, making them visible and searchable. Like how it lists "Offers in-app purchases" currently, it could also list "Ad-free", "Free", etc.

F-Droid does this already with its listing of 'anti-features' for each app.

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by Kylekramer »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #44
edent wrote: post #31

Good? What's the alternative? Have a crappy, paid-for, add filled, bloated app promote itself as "Cauliflower Cooker Lite - the #1 free cauliflower app. 100% ad-free". Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

> should be part of the store's listing - not the title. How long has Google store been operating (under various names)? Over a decade I think. Do they know people would love to choose between apps with and without ads? Of course. Why they decided not to implement it in the listing? Because they live from ads. There is exactly zero chance they will do it as you propose.

They've shown whether an app has ads for over five years: https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/04/28/the-play-store-star...

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by jerf »

tambre wrote: post #8
PrimeDirective wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry for the offtopic, but can you tell me the name of the ad-less tuner app? I've been searching for one, but the best I found was Fender's. Which is pretty ok, too.

I also ended up with Fender's, but it wasn't terribly responsive so eventually purchased a strobe tuner [0]. Has some disadvantages over something like a smartphone, but better for my simple usage. [0]: https://www.thomann.de/intl/ee/peterson_stroboclip_hd.htm

How can you have an electronic strobe tuner? I understand the mechanics of mechanical ones (they're really quite simple), but how can you have one with an LCD display? Is it merely a weird way of outputting the same electronic tuning you can get from any FFT-based tuning, and they're just riding the reputation of the mechanical devices?

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by rightbyte »

coolgoose wrote: post #9

I always wondered why all these stores are so fucking awful to filter. Is it calculated ?

Ye probably they want to manipulate the "feed" like Facebook. Google Play have no way to filter on permissions, ads or price ... has to be on purposely, as it is so user hostile.

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by j1elo »

edent wrote: post #31

Good? What's the alternative? Have a crappy, paid-for, add filled, bloated app promote itself as "Cauliflower Cooker Lite - the #1 free cauliflower app. 100% ad-free". Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

> Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

Well yeah, the theory is easy. I'd say "Yes" to what you say, IFF the metadata is usable as a search filter. Otherwise, it's of no use, thus not a better solution in practice.

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by whimsicalism »

edent wrote: post #31

Good? What's the alternative? Have a crappy, paid-for, add filled, bloated app promote itself as "Cauliflower Cooker Lite - the #1 free cauliflower app. 100% ad-free". Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

> Metadata like file size, whether there are in-app ads or purchases, etc, should be part of the store's listing - not the title.

???? Did I miss the part where Google announced they were adding searchable metadata at the same time they eliminated adding this info to the title?

If not, seems like a clearly anti-consumer move.

Re: Tell HN: You can't add “no ads” in your Play Store app's title

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Post by otterley »

Spivak wrote: post #37
otterley wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The presence or omission of a fact is often the result of a conscious editorial choice. It is frequently the intent, not the nature of the words themselves, that underscores the editorial nature of the statement.

Buy Uncle Miller’s Corn Flakes — 100% arsenic free!

Exactly. Another textbook example is the language describing meat as coming from pork with “no hormones added” even though it’s unlawful to add hormones to pork grown for human consumption. Sure, it’s a fact; but the choice to include it is made to provide a marketing boost over competing brands that might not have the language on the packaging.
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