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Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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Re: Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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Post by ethbr0 »

krasin wrote: post #108
ethbr0 wrote: post #48

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I don't even understand what's going on with this one. Transcribing the blurb from the clip, from interviewing the residents of the house: "[The people who live in the house] have a friend who has a contract with an Amazon warehouse in China. They say whenever that friend's contract expires, she will send the packages to their house for the family to sort and then send back to Amazon for the company to sell."

From what I understand, it's a play around the Amazon Inventory Storage fees ([1], [2]), which normally are $0.75 per cubic foot monthly, but grow to $6.90 per cubic foot, if stored for more than a year and not sold. It's possible to ask Amazon to remove selected items from their warehouse and send to any US address for a somewhat reasonable fee of around $0.32/item ([3]). What happens here is the Chinese sellers sen…

That would pretty much explain it. Thanks for taking the time to link it together. Suppose this is a situation of "Don't hate the player, hate the game."

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Post by TMWNN »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #208
bombcar wrote: post #181

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To be fair if someone was using the “app didn’t work” excuse multiple times, suspicion could be raised. But for a one off occurrence? Why would you assume a car company knows what they’re doing over the person telling the story? It’s silly.

There is a certain personality type common among midwits who are smart enough to think of the most obvious workaround/solution/exception but not smart enough to realize that when people communicate, especially online, they usually choose brevity over exactness. Like if I say "Humans have two feet" some midwit will come along with an article or anecdote about a person who was born without two feet. And if I say the mu…

>Like if I say "Humans have two feet" some midwit will come along with an article or anecdote about a person who was born without two feet.

It's autism.

One of the symptoms of autism is [the inability to recognize sarcasm](http://www.healthcentral.com/autism/c/1443/162610/autism-sar...) without the help of idiotic, illiterate signals like "/s". Your example has the same cause; people who are unable to understand nuance and social cues, whether in real life or in written form.

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Post by authed »

tyingq wrote: post #116
authed wrote: post #62

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I read many comments and didn't see one that was saying that but you might be right as I was too lazy to read everything.

home finds them pretty quick for me.

there was a couple comments that matched this search filter.... not that many, but thanks.

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Post by avh02 »

avh02 wrote: post #194
reasonabl_human wrote: post #93

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This is simply not true. Microsoft dog foods tons of its own software and all internal cloud services I know of run on azure. Also, having consumed both cloud service offerings, customer support within Azure was far more responsive. Source: used to work as a SWE on a flagship Azure service

> Microsoft dog foods tons of its own software and all internal cloud services I know of run on azure so it's even more embarrassing how terrible the software is. trolling aside - if this is true, the state of e.g: MS Teams is a travesty. Implementation of replies to messages implemented in 2021!? So many bugs, etc. it seriously damages productivity. And don't get me started on sharepoint.

Since it seems I need to back up my statement: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29492884 is one example... Is that teams' fault? No, but they'd be able to call 911 if it wasn't installed.

I have a running list of teams bugs/flaws/inferiorities, it's currently about 30 items, will probably publish it sometime soon

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Post by hiptobecubic »

gumby wrote: post #103
slimsag wrote: post #18

Check out the Amazon Flex Drivers subreddit[0], there are tons of people saying they were paid for the day of deliveries without delivering any packages and told to go home. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFlexDrivers/comments/rb3ggn/i...

Wow, I would have expected Amazon to have stiffed them. But I guess Amazon really needs them for the last mile.

High turnover right before the Christmas boom would not be good for Amazon.

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Post by kingcharles »

14 wrote: post #210
kingcharles wrote: post #204

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I have this happen constantly through Amazon. Now all the hassle is on you to get the refund. And they won't process the refund immediately, so you have to pay out of your own money to get a replacement. And then often, as I've found, the price of the item has now gone up too, so you have to pay extra. p.s. Your username?! I can think this must be the only site you've managed to get that handle?

It is the only site. Someone once had an even lower number and someone made mention to it and the person replied saying it was easy and he had just gotten it so I decided to try and see what was available. I had been a long term lurker and never posted but once I got this username I try and respectfully post when I can.

What's fascinating is that it was still available in 2018.

And the username I use here isn't available on pretty much any other site, but was still available here in 2021.

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Post by ianlevesque »

samstave wrote: post #102
hattmall wrote: post #75

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Couldn't you also just go outside and turn on the car, like people did before remote starts.

When I was consulting in Nome AK - it was -40F outside and there were locals standing outside behind the hospitals smoking cigs... My brother lives in Anchorage and he went hiking with his with ~week ago, and he said it was -20F (My brother was a colonel in the USAF, so not just like a weak person) But the point is, she should have been able to just ran out to the car like other alaskans do, and not be late to work.

Yeah at those temperatures it really depends on how much wind there is and how long you will be outside. -20F did freeze all my car doors completely closed to the point where they could not be wrestled open once though.

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Post by imwillofficial »

haggy102 wrote: post #39
imwillofficial wrote: post #27

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If their stuff was all super resilient and multi AZ, it would be easier to place blame on the customer

Multi AZ != Multi region. AWS has many services that run in multiple regions but some of their services are not.

Correct, I mean region. Thank you

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Post by ec109685 »

smartbit wrote: post #157
ec109685 wrote: post #146

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Netflix has a chaos gorilla that does something like that: http://techblog.netflix.com/2011/07/netflix-simian-army.html And even more now: http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/12/active-active-for-multi-...

Therefor I didn’t expect Netflix to go down. Would be interesting to learn in a postmortem why Netflix had issues despite Chaos Gorilla .

It seems like the fact that Route53 went down for changes was a big part of it.
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