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Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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I know a fair number of Americans who are over 50 years old, and appear fairly intelligent - but who, a while after each election, seem actually surprised and offended that the recently-elected politicians are not energetically living up to their campaign promises of squeaky-clean ethics, plentiful jobs, open & responsible government, etc. Do corporations have so much better a record of living up to feel-good marketi…

WHAT?? I'm over 50, and after 30+ years of voting and paying attention, have realized that politicians are by and large the lowest, sleaziest, most power-hungry and amoral creatures that can still perhaps be called human. I don't believe a word they say, and think that legislatures should be in session 90 days a year to figure things out and generally get their shit done, and the rest of the time they should have to…

You are one our of many

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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the top comments talking about maps, it's absolutely insane 'The agreement included a pledge from Apple to help Chinese manufacturers develop "the most advanced manufacturing technologies," "support the training of high-quality Chinese talents," use more components from Chinese suppliers, sign deals with Chinese software firms, collaborate with research in Chinese universities, and directly invest in Chinese tech com…

As a young woman I agree klebe.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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You are based in the US? Try posting that ‘The US is morally superior to China’ in China, and you are going to spend a lot of time being re-educated as to why that’s not true. But seriously, I just want to privately practice tennis.

No I totally think US is overall superior to China right now, when comparing 2 nations snapshot vs snapshot. But, US perception on China is so bad compared the Chain perception on US, that this imbalance is creating a huge strategic risk between 2 nuclear super power, and causes both sides troubles when they need to collaborate. That's why it's important to unshackle the US mass from the perception bias on China. And…

I guess things are going to look bad to other people when you run your country as a dictatorship.

Lets meet as friends in Tiananmen square - you wear a t-shirt saying ‘what happened here in 1989?’, I’ll come dressed as Winnie the Pooh.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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the top comments talking about maps, it's absolutely insane 'The agreement included a pledge from Apple to help Chinese manufacturers develop "the most advanced manufacturing technologies," "support the training of high-quality Chinese talents," use more components from Chinese suppliers, sign deals with Chinese software firms, collaborate with research in Chinese universities, and directly invest in Chinese tech com…

The empathetic perspective is that these CEOs and boards don’t have national allegiance. They are trying to optimize globally, and China is more exploitable in the sense of getting a steeper growth curve out of it.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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the top comments talking about maps, it's absolutely insane 'The agreement included a pledge from Apple to help Chinese manufacturers develop "the most advanced manufacturing technologies," "support the training of high-quality Chinese talents," use more components from Chinese suppliers, sign deals with Chinese software firms, collaborate with research in Chinese universities, and directly invest in Chinese tech com…

$275 billion in spending over a period of five years sounds like a lot, but I think you might be underestimating how much Apple would spend in China “naturally”.

When's the last CEO I heard making these same promises to America?

On Apple’s spending in the USA:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/26/business/apple-spending-u...

“The company said its overall spending would reach $430 billion in the United States over the next five years.”

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook 'secretly' signed $275B deal with China in 2016

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It seems fashionable to preach helplessness. Apple can't change China by themselves, but they are not by themselves. If we all follow that reasoning, then nothing ever happens. To surrender and retreat from the field of battle is a sure way to lose. Despair is a leading psyops tactic - targeted at enemies; let's not help them. It would be interesting to talk about what organizations like Apple can and cannot do; what…

Imagine getting an email from Apple telling you that you're laid off because you job is less important than sending a stern message to China. Apple then loses billions of dollars of revenue to Huawei and Xiaomi, but can you really place a price on feeling warm and fuzzy on the inside? If you want to control what maps Apple shows in China, then ask the government to do it. Assuming you can convince Congress to do anyt…

Congress and the US government take many aggressive actions against China. Recently, members of Congress personally visited Taiwan to express support for them. A current bill imposes sanctions on China for Xinjing human rights abuses, and President Biden imposed a 'diplomatic boycott' of the upcoming Olympics for the same reason. The Pentagon is openly focusing its efforts on China, including providing nuclear submarine technology to Australia - a historic first besides the UK.

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It seems fashionable to preach helplessness. Apple can't change China by themselves, but they are not by themselves. If we all follow that reasoning, then nothing ever happens. To surrender and retreat from the field of battle is a sure way to lose. Despair is a leading psyops tactic - targeted at enemies; let's not help them. It would be interesting to talk about what organizations like Apple can and cannot do; what…

Its not reasonable for us "we the people" to expect a profit seeking company to turn its back on profit. If we want it to behave a particular way we need to make rules for it to follow. Companies are no people with feeling and morals. They are machines for making money.

> Companies are no people with feeling and morals. They are machines for making money.

Companies do moral things all the time, being run by people and being, like people, tied to a community that they care about (often, to a degree) and which greatly affects the company. Without enlightened self-interest, and some broader self-interest, the society that provides customers, investors, employees, roads, security, markets, etc. - it collapses. The Middle Ages weren't good for business.

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Google Earth isn't available to the chinese.

Not what I asked... What does it look like in google earth when you look at the islands? from OUTSIDE china... Are these same islands 'cencored' in these apps outside china as well in the same manner? (specifically in SATELLITE view)

You can just look yourself?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Senkaku+Islands+%2F+Dioyud...

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what is the need that justifies this exactly?

missiles and artillery can't remote-boom-boom if you can't know where they are

North Korea won't think to look at other maps?
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