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Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

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post #98

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I know it's not perfect, but if you use Amazon's Alexa and know an Alexa you can change the wake phrase to a few others (iirc "echo" and "amazon" are among the choices).

It’s not just a question of being a friend or family members name name. It’s also easy for a YouTube video etc to accidentally include say “Alexia turn off the lights” as part of seemingly innocent dialog that nobody building it thinks is going to cause a problem.

It's been literally years since someone saying Alexa on a TV show or elsewhere have triggered my devices. Occasionally I've seen them switch to "listen", but they've gotten good at not reacting.

I'm assuming part of it is that it's gotten very good at recognising who is speaking. E.g. my son and I tested the limits of it a while back by changing voices (it still correctly identified my son when he tried to change his voice), mixing and matching (I'd say "Alexa" and he would say "who am I?" and vice versa; Alexa would recognise whomever said "Alexa" irrespective of who spoke what followed). So it'll usually know if whomever is saying "Alexa" is a known member of the household, which would seem like a good indicator to increase the threshold for how clearly the phrase is spoken before activating.

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#142

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The nice thing about "OK Google" was that it sounded a lot like "Cocaine Poodle", so you could imagine your personal assistant was a hyperactive creature of limited intelligence. Which honestly, sets expectations appropriately.

My favorite command is: "Obey, Booble! Bind my bone!" Which is close enough to make Google find my phone :D

That's quite the incantation.

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#143
post #79

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It's an ad tracker. It's loading in ads that people see, but isn't the source website generating the traffic.

Ah, that makes sense. I take it that its name is a play on "DoubleClick"?

I've notice some non-native English speakers use "double verify" where native speakers would use "double check" or "verify". It could be a play on that.

Or they had a meeting where the founders asked "what domain sounds twice as good as verify.com?"

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#144

A huge piece of the internet is going away: back in the early 2000s I would use Alexa a lot it was a gold mine of information - to the point where some people bragged about their rank on Alexa - that was hilarious, like the modern "twitter followers" / "github stars"

And people bragging about their Google PR ranks was super annoying.

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#145

If you wish, you can download some of the top 1m records from their s3 curl http://s3.amazonaws.com/alexa-static/top-1m.csv.zip --output ~/Downloads/alexa.zip Today it contains the top 630779 records.

Does anyone know offhand if past versions of the top 1M are easily accessible?

Thanks!

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#146
Wow. That's a real bummer -- an end of an era. I've been relying on Alexa (as part of various browser extensions over the years) to get a sense of a popularity of a given website for years. Not sure what's the good alternative. If you're aware of some in form of a Chrome extension, let me know.

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#147
post #8

It's sort of wild to think that Amazon purchased Alexa.com in 1999 for ~$250M in stock, and that stock would be worth more than $7B today, if my math is correct. Bought a website ranking company, used the company's name as the name of a consumer electronics assistant, and then shuttered the company 22 years later to (presumably) be able to use the domain name for more consumer electronics.

In essense, what the original Alexa did seems to have been internalized into Amazon ads (or their b2b analytics division), which is coincidently the fastest growing part of Amazon. Wonder why they used the Alexa name for their home assistant.

According to my former manager who worked on the Alexa team at one point, it was a name with a high true-positive rate for their voice recognition system.

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#148

IIRC, their crawler pushes (or pushed) a lot of page into the Internet Archive Wayback Machine. What kind of effect will this shutdown have on it?

No effect, I believe, since Alexa haven't been providing crawl data to the Internet Archive since January 2021.

You can see this by looking at the "Items" graph on the Alexa Crawls collection [0]

(I am not associated with the Internet Archive - just a very happy user!)

[0] https://archive.org/details/alexacrawls?tab=about

Re: We will be retiring Alexa.com

#149
post #43

Interestingly, Alexa was founded by Brewster Kahle, who founded the Internet Archive contemporaneously (both in 1996). Interesting flow of ideas between the two projects - one to figure out what is getting traffic (commercial) and one to figure out how to preserve it (non-profit). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Kahle

It seems that the flow has reduced somewhat in recent months: Alexa haven't been providing crawl data to the Internet Archive since January 2021. (You can see this by looking at the "Items" graph on the Alexa Crawls collection [0])

[0] https://archive.org/details/alexacrawls?tab=about

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