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Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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The title seems inaccurate, and the outrage seems based on the title rather than the actual content. The article text explicitly says that the data is "anonymized and aggregated". How is that tracking?

Because it turns out that advertising networks and data brokers can de-anonymize the data with good success. How is that not tracking?

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Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Honestly the only time I've seen Snapchat in the past 5 years someone was using it to buy cocaine

Snapchat? How unprofessional, everyone knows that's what Signal is for.

I thought it was pretty opsec-poor myself but I wasn't going to get involved haha

Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Related: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/12/apple-reaches-quiet-...

> Lockdown Privacy, an app that blocks ad trackers, has called Apple’s policy “functionally useless in stopping third-party tracking.” It performed a variety of tests on top apps and observed that personal data and device information is still “being sent to trackers in almost all cases.”

Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Switching to the mobile web version of Instagram on a UBO-enabled browser has been a gift of sorts. Because the website can't run in the background like an app, it can't preload anything. Launching takes a few moments to show posts, and videos don't autoplay. Any time the mobile website shows you a prompt to use the app for "an improved experience", they really just mean "for better tracking and personalized ads".

This.

I've been working on native mobile apps in the last couple of years, and I realized the only reason companies want to push native apps is because they can do whatever they want with the tracking and 3rd party stuff in general.

Seriously this native apps world is so backwards compared to the web...

I'll take youtube as an example, on the mobile web app you can block most ads and you don't get the latest stupid features youtube is trying to push for some reason. Sometimes I'm brought back to the native app through a link and I'm shocked. The only reason I keep it is Chromecast support.

Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Yep, but let us also remind our self how stupid that line of argumentation is. Apple needs to let at least Facebook track us, if they don’t Apple will lose millions of customers. Even if Apple truly want to be serious regarding privacy, the majority of their user base won’t let them.

The vast majority of users don't really understand what's going on. All they'll know is that Apple pulled two apps that they use all the time, and they'll blame Apple for it. Yes, it's stupid, but it's the unfortunate reality. I do use Snapchat, but I would 100% support Apple pulling the app until they fall in line with proper privacy controls. Unfortunately I'm in the minority, and both Apple and Snapchat know this.

yeah, it's pretty frustrating, regular people on the street and even semi-technical people I talk to say "Oh, Apple is just as bad as all the others"

They legitimately don't understand the difference between Facebook tracking every detail about your life and Apple having an account with your name on it

Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Of course they are. If you don't want to be tracked by Facebook, stop running their code on your device . Apple provides you with the app privacy labels in the App Store. Read them and use them.

If I don’t want Facebook code to run on my device, I literally can’t use anything outside of stock OS offline. The Facebook and Google ads SDKs are in absolutely everything…it’s how everyone makes money online.

They're not in everything, just most large and popular things.

Re: Facebook and Snapchat iOS Apps Still Tracking Users Despite Opt-Out

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Switching to the mobile web version of Instagram on a UBO-enabled browser has been a gift of sorts. Because the website can't run in the background like an app, it can't preload anything. Launching takes a few moments to show posts, and videos don't autoplay. Any time the mobile website shows you a prompt to use the app for "an improved experience", they really just mean "for better tracking and personalized ads".

If someone is forcing you to use Facebook products, you might try Barinsta, an open and (client-side) tracking free Instagram app.
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