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Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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Apart from that you are also free to apply freedom of speech as a principle outside the bounds of the law, like many platforms have done most of the time until advertising got out of hand with privacy violations and content restrictions. Don't know how anyone could support more content restrictions... doesn't seem too bright at all, didn't hear any compelling case and you always have the option to not engage.

Yeah, there are also many workarounds aside from censoring. Such as allowing people to select filters/their own curation algorithm and so on. But it seems to be the European model to censor societally undesirable viewpoints, from my understanding. So free speech from the American perspective does not seem to be a universally held belief. Personally I think it's worth striving for, but providing tools for those who wa…

Agreed, especially if they would think 10 minutes about the values they allegedly espouse. There will always be something offensive in a culture that is benign or even welcomed in another. Their model is some artifical neutral culture mirroring diplomatic or corporate cultures.

Europes legislators are prominently very old and their fears are projected on the net.

We had hate speech laws for more than 1.5 centuries and still 2 dictatorships in one century and people still believe the state should regulate content and this power won't be abused. I don't know anymore, hereditary brain damage probably. It fits the definition of insanity too.

I believe we need some form of fisher-price browser that keeps some groups demanding moderation in their own land and completely separate them from those that do not like it. Android- and iPhone-countries, slowly running out of ideas...

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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Again...is that not the whole point of twitter? Their _entire_ business model is predicated on their algorithm manipulating engagement. There's very little "organic" engagement on social media any more.

Is the point of your home to allow me to live there?

It’s building a community center but not letting the fat kids come play.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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Not at all. It means that the account was using fake accounts and/or bots to help spread information that was viewed to be false.

My question with this kind of infraction is how do they connect the user to the fake accounts and bots? Can I take down accounts I don't like buy paying a few bucks to a blatant bot farm?

This used to be very common on twitch a few years back. People would viewbot people they didn't like and they'd get 24-72 hour temp bans while it was investigated.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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Twitter isn't a public space. It is a privately owned platform.

If twitter is going to selectively censor their user base then they are liable for the content the users who remain create.

I made this comment a while ago in relation to Facebook and had some folks reference the specific US law that makes that not the case.

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No I think that 'corporate-speak' is the term for that. And it clearly doesn't get the point across since there are any number of people posting that this in an incorrect use of the word. I think what is happening is that some people want to imply malice by misusing a word.

So you agree that there is a different nuance when using “newspeak”.

No. I think people are deliberately misusing a word to imply totalitarian control.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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I have personally reported this (and related "tracker" accounts) for disinformation multiple times, so for one, I am glad to see it suspended. Despite the innocent sounding name, it's not just "coverage of the trial" as you would expect. The "tracker" accounts have all signs of belonging to a Russian troll farm and pushing a hostile agenda, which has absolutely nothing to do with justice one way or another. I expect…

How do you distinguish Russian troll farm vs. someone whose politics/opinions you disagree with?

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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They also suspended Nancy Tracker [0], a twitter account tracking Nancy Pelosi's stock trades. Something else I noticed that I think has changed is the follower counts on suspended accounts, which is only available on the app. It may have always been hidden on the web. I get it, they're a private platform. But if they're acting on behalf of powerful state actors, how can we say that's not suppression on speech? The w…

Let's see how long @pelositracker lasts.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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I think what they meant was that they detected bot activity associated with the account.

There's multiple huge problems if Twitter takes this approach to rules enforcement even if they're genuinely trying to be honest and unbiased. 1) Every account on Twitter has "bot activity associated with this account": if for no other reason that random advertising bots retweet, follow, or like random people and posts to attempt to blend in as a genuine account and hide their true purpose. This reasoning gives Twitt…

I suspect a key difference here is “all of the users other twitter accounts”. If a bunch of accounts registered to the same email address all start boosting each other that’s probably pretty easy to detect, and distinct from someone else trying to do it to you.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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"artificial" is the key word -- it is referring to intentional manipulation rather than legitimate engagement.

Again...is that not the whole point of twitter? Their _entire_ business model is predicated on their algorithm manipulating engagement. There's very little "organic" engagement on social media any more.

Yes, but to benefit Twitter's advertisers/revenue, not you.

It's Twitter's audience, not yours. That's why I left: I got tired of sharecropping.

You can't spam, but they can inject ads inline.

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