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The lost world of physicality

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Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by westicle »

Hisoka wrote: post #43
anamax wrote: post #41

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> We start to view other people as competitors and enemies. Hold that thought. > In the past, we had tribes. And different tribes were enemies and competitors. And, if you don't think that there's competition in a tribe of humans, you're claiming that groups of humans are different from every other group of animals. (Simple example - even in tribes, 40% of males don't have genetic children while only 20% of females a…

Yes, true, but you still belong to 1 tribe. Nowadays we're lucky to have anyone besides family, or a S.O. who we consider a tribe. It doesn't help we spread the bulk of our days along people we don't care about too.

Don't forget friends.

Probably the largest potential subset of your tribe you can form :)

Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by epochwolf »

true_religion wrote: post #97
epochwolf wrote: post #94

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> Yes, kids these days text more than they talk on the phone OT: What age range is this? I'm 24 and the only texts I get are from CloudKick (server warnings) and Google Voice (voicemail transcripts).

You're 24, in what way do you think your age group would be considered part of "kids".

Because my grandparents and a number of people a generation younger than them have included me in the "kids these days" group. :)

Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by Hisoka »

masterzora wrote: post #68
Hisoka wrote: post #25

A side effect of losing touch with the physical world is that it wrecks your brain. You begin to feel isolated from the rest of the world. What doesn't help is the growth of cities, and overpopulation. We start to view other people as competitors and enemies. Have you ever gone through some days when you encounter many people, whether it's in a commute, or whatever and ask why people are so useless in your life? What…

Have you ever gone through some days when you encounter many people, whether it's in a commute, or whatever and ask why people are so useless in your life? No, never. They all fascinate me, instead. Try this: next time you're in a rush somewhere stop for a minute and look at the people around you. Try to figure out their stories: who are their families or friends, why are they out right now and where are they going,…

I've actually tried that. It's not sustainable for me, personally to have that attitude. There's just way way too many people in this world. I just don't care about 99% of the people in this world.

Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by Hisoka »

westicle wrote: post #101
Hisoka wrote: post #43

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Yes, true, but you still belong to 1 tribe. Nowadays we're lucky to have anyone besides family, or a S.O. who we consider a tribe. It doesn't help we spread the bulk of our days along people we don't care about too.

Don't forget friends. Probably the largest potential subset of your tribe you can form :)

Actually I omitted friends because I don't believe most friendships are that tribe-like. Friends rarely have stake in each other's success, and they don't share suffering together in each other's failures. Most friendships wither away easily as a result. What I'm aiming for are "tribal businesses" where everyone works together to make a living together.

Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by hessenwolf »

arethuza wrote: post #56
swombat wrote: post #44

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It does, but it means it's also a misleading statistic within the context of this argument, because the high population density (600 people per square mile) would indicate that you can't ever walk 50 meters in one direction without bumping into someone. In fact, you can easily walk miles without meeting anyone - if you go into the countryside. On the other hand, you won't be able to walk anywhere near 50 metres witho…

I think my record, at least so far, is walking for four days in the Highlands in winter without meeting anyone. Not bad for an island that people generally consider as rather densely populated.

Yes... a flat density statistic is fairly useless to describe somewhere like Britain, although perhaps it is a weak proxy for relative density, because most places will have density variations.

p.s. did you just walk around in a circle, though?

Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by arethuza »

hessenwolf wrote: post #105
arethuza wrote: post #56

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I think my record, at least so far, is walking for four days in the Highlands in winter without meeting anyone. Not bad for an island that people generally consider as rather densely populated.

Yes... a flat density statistic is fairly useless to describe somewhere like Britain, although perhaps it is a weak proxy for relative density, because most places will have density variations. p.s. did you just walk around in a circle, though?

It was a fairly devious route from Achnashellach to Ullapool stopping for a few nights at the utterly gorgeous Lochan Fada so I could climb the surrounding mountains then up to Ullapool.

It was early April, bitterly cold and very deep snow. Usually those mountains are pretty busy - but I had the whole area to myself.

Re: The lost world of physicality

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Post by [deleted] »

hessenwolf wrote: post #105
arethuza wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think my record, at least so far, is walking for four days in the Highlands in winter without meeting anyone. Not bad for an island that people generally consider as rather densely populated.

Yes... a flat density statistic is fairly useless to describe somewhere like Britain, although perhaps it is a weak proxy for relative density, because most places will have density variations. p.s. did you just walk around in a circle, though?

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