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Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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It's not deadly enough for me to consider a booster, I'll pass on this supplementary shot https://www.marketwatch.com/story/who-has-not-seen-any-repor...

Crazy idea: Just take it, suffer no negative consequences and be fine!

Everyone I know has gotten sick after taking it. I think “no negative consequences” is overstated.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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Unclear why the cynicism is warranted here. They’re not just making a guess, they performed an experiment that is inline with a comparable experiment from non affiliated SA scientists to yield these results. Should they not run this type of experiment and make a useful and true recommendation to the public? Would that be a better more pure scenario for you?

No they should not make recommendations to the public, because they aren't a public agency - they have a conflict of interest. It's like a hedge fund manager giving public advice on stock picks.

>It's like a hedge fund manager giving public advice on stock picks.

Why not? Stock picking is their job. Given that logic, a teacher shouldn't tell people how to teach their kid to read, and a plumber shouldn't tell people how to change a faucet.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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Exactly this.

And what? so we shouldn't be protected because capitalism? There is a deafening lack of coherence here.

I think their point is just be mindful Pfizer is heavily incentivized to push for more and more boosters, if there's even a marginal benefit then they will advocate for more boosters (more $$$).

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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post #15
post #3

Product manufacturer recommends use of its product. Surprise!

If they can show that the product helps to save lifes and at some point get back to a normalcy, and especially if there’s no other significantly better product available, I really don’t have an issue with that.

save lifes

Not doing your side any favors here.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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post #14

It's not deadly enough for me to consider a booster, I'll pass on this supplementary shot https://www.marketwatch.com/story/who-has-not-seen-any-repor...

Not deadly enough _to you_. I'm sure those who are vulnerable will thank you immensely for your compassion.

The vulnerable can and should seek out this protection without asking the healthy to risk vaccine injury. Herd immunity is impossible to achieve in a virus that can migrate in and out of animal reservoirs.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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You are aware that while the covid vaccines protect against severe illness and death, they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?

> they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus? No but they do reduce the chance you catch and spread the virus

I hear people say this, is there data from the CDC on this?

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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You are aware that while the covid vaccines protect against severe illness and death, they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus?

> they don't prevent somebody catching and spreading the virus? No but they do reduce the chance you catch and spread the virus

What are you basing this on? UK data for instance shows the percentage of vaccinated covid cases is similar to the percentage of vaccinated people among the population, suggesting that vaccinated people are just as likely to catch it as the unvaccinated.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

#69
post #18

It's not deadly enough for me to consider a booster, I'll pass on this supplementary shot https://www.marketwatch.com/story/who-has-not-seen-any-repor...

Crazy idea: Just take it, suffer no negative consequences and be fine!

Yeah, myocarditis is a myth anyway.

Re: Pfizer and Biontech provide update on Omicron variant

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post #55
post #15

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If they can show that the product helps to save lifes and at some point get back to a normalcy, and especially if there’s no other significantly better product available, I really don’t have an issue with that.

At this point, does anyone believe we’ll get back to normalcy? What’s the path?

Vaccination. Why it doesn't seem to be working is that not everyone is getting vaccinated and there are pockets where the numbers are even lower. EVERY single study shows the likelihood of hospitalization and death is much higher in unvaccinated individuals, why is this hard to understand?
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