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Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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Am I the only one that has long since given up traditional desktop streaming software like TeamViewer/AnyDesk and the like for game streaming software (Parsec, Rainway, Steam Remote Play, etc) that just happen to offer desktop streaming because they can? The actual streaming tech in those feels worlds ahead in terms of quality/efficiency/stability/latency. And the UX has generally felt better as well with much more s…

I think the difference is that Teamviewer/AnyDesk is intended mostly for corporate usage. Their software is optimised for images that are mostly static, letting them get away with much less bandwidth without making text blurry or illegible. Standard H.264/H.265 encoded video needs sharpening and extra filters to be both low bandwidth and legible in many cases. Parsec and friends use more bandwidth and hardware resour…

>Microsoft's RDP solution in excellent on all fronts, though.

Is it? Even on gigabit LAN there's a noticeable amount of latency. For web surfing it's mostly passable, but for text/code editing it's very annoying.

Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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Can it run over TCP? Or only UDP (UDT)?

Why would you want remote desktop over TCP? Genuine question...

Certain networks heavily filter, or entirely filter UDP. At least having the option is a nice thing in case you find yourself in that situation.

Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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Am I the only one that has long since given up traditional desktop streaming software like TeamViewer/AnyDesk and the like for game streaming software (Parsec, Rainway, Steam Remote Play, etc) that just happen to offer desktop streaming because they can? The actual streaming tech in those feels worlds ahead in terms of quality/efficiency/stability/latency. And the UX has generally felt better as well with much more s…

Parsec doesn't support remoting into a Linux machine, so that was the dealbreaker for me.

I’m waiting for someone to make this for the Linux desktop. I would think Steam may push into it with their SteamOS project.

Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the difference is that Teamviewer/AnyDesk is intended mostly for corporate usage. Their software is optimised for images that are mostly static, letting them get away with much less bandwidth without making text blurry or illegible. Standard H.264/H.265 encoded video needs sharpening and extra filters to be both low bandwidth and legible in many cases. Parsec and friends use more bandwidth and hardware resour…

>Microsoft's RDP solution in excellent on all fronts, though. Is it? Even on gigabit LAN there's a noticeable amount of latency. For web surfing it's mostly passable, but for text/code editing it's very annoying.

That has not been my experience, I regularly RDP to a workstation and code from there.

We even ran our Dev machines in Azure over RDP/WAN. Only those on <30Mbps connections had noticable issues

Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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post #31
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the difference is that Teamviewer/AnyDesk is intended mostly for corporate usage. Their software is optimised for images that are mostly static, letting them get away with much less bandwidth without making text blurry or illegible. Standard H.264/H.265 encoded video needs sharpening and extra filters to be both low bandwidth and legible in many cases. Parsec and friends use more bandwidth and hardware resour…

>Microsoft's RDP solution in excellent on all fronts, though. Is it? Even on gigabit LAN there's a noticeable amount of latency. For web surfing it's mostly passable, but for text/code editing it's very annoying.

i use rdp over zerotier and it works like magic. the "server" is having a 30mbps connection so i'm limited by that. still, the experience of over 15 concurrent users is not bad.

i do excel, word, Libreoffice, firefox, heck employees even watch youtube on firefox over rdp and its "slightly" difficult to have it desync video and audio sometimes but it works.

my only problem is getting rdpwrap to patch every 3-4 months. i run ltsc so i should be getting less updates but what do you know, it messes up and all hell breaks loose.

Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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post #9
post #6

Am I the only one that has long since given up traditional desktop streaming software like TeamViewer/AnyDesk and the like for game streaming software (Parsec, Rainway, Steam Remote Play, etc) that just happen to offer desktop streaming because they can? The actual streaming tech in those feels worlds ahead in terms of quality/efficiency/stability/latency. And the UX has generally felt better as well with much more s…

I think the difference is that Teamviewer/AnyDesk is intended mostly for corporate usage. Their software is optimised for images that are mostly static, letting them get away with much less bandwidth without making text blurry or illegible. Standard H.264/H.265 encoded video needs sharpening and extra filters to be both low bandwidth and legible in many cases. Parsec and friends use more bandwidth and hardware resour…

why isn't there a free implementation similar to what microsoft does with rdp? i mean vnc is not it.

terminal services.

people are stuck with either paying microsoft/citrix or using rdpwrap

Re: Show HN: P2P remote desktop – an alternative to TeamViewer / AnyDesk

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Am I the only one that has long since given up traditional desktop streaming software like TeamViewer/AnyDesk and the like for game streaming software (Parsec, Rainway, Steam Remote Play, etc) that just happen to offer desktop streaming because they can? The actual streaming tech in those feels worlds ahead in terms of quality/efficiency/stability/latency. And the UX has generally felt better as well with much more s…

With the protocols you mention, are you able to reach an unattended machine and take control of it or does someone have to be at that machine to grant you remote access?
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