MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released • Hacker News Board

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by joshu » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 12:01 AM UTC

Peanuts99 wrote: post #157

dont__panic wrote: post #72

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Hot take: All routers completely suck right now, and most of them are built to spy on your network at worst and accidentally expose you to cyberattacks at best. There are two choices, the way I see it: 1. Invest in a decent router (probably $150-200 at least) and throw openwrt on it. You'll need something with serious CPU beef because openwrt relies more on software than hardware, and most routers use hardware for Qo…

Instead of buying out of date kit, just buy a second hand Ruckus AP and call it a day. No telemetry and you can set it up in 10 minutes. They're enterprise grade and will last 10 years or more.

also about twice as fast ubiquiti in my experience

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by fifteenforty » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 12:14 AM UTC

ok_dad wrote: post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

Have you heard of Fritz!box from AVM? That’s what I have setup for a few friends, with good success. Personally I use a Mikrotik hap ac 3 in my apartment. They have a ‘mesh’ product in the Audience line.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by ytch » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 12:49 AM UTC

candiddevmike wrote: post #39

I wish I could install Debian on my mikrotik devices, I don't need a CLI or GUI--give me networkd or ifupdown instead.

Correct me if I am wrong but if you want a multiple NIC bare metal device, you may consider industrial pc.

Many of them have ITX size PC or motherboard with Atom CPU and over 8 of 1G NIC plus 2 10G SFP+

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by technofiend » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 1:03 AM UTC

magicalhippo wrote: post #143

ericd wrote: post #132

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I've been considering replacing my EdgeRouter with a pfsense box (probably the Netgate 6100), have you been dissatisfied with your Netgate?

Unless something radical has changed in the last half year or so, pfSense will be a giant PITA if you have "residential" IPv6. That is, anything but a completely static prefix.

I am unhappy with pfsense's inability to push gigabit traffic on my hardware, but IPV6 works fine for me. I'd be curious what isp you have and what your issue is.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by locusm » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 1:45 AM UTC

imiric wrote: post #144

ericd wrote: post #132

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I've been considering replacing my EdgeRouter with a pfsense box (probably the Netgate 6100), have you been dissatisfied with your Netgate?

I also have an EdgeRouter, but will probably replace that last since it works fine and doesn't require any of the Ubiquiti Controller / Cloud shenanigans. I've had intermittent LAN dropouts on the SG3100 that I couldn't explain from the logs. That in addition to Netgate's hostility towards open source with how they're handling pfSense, and the whole pfSense+ product, just puts a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to…

I find Ubiquiti wifi to be excellent and their EdgeRouter line has been reliable too but the routing products are just missing basic stuff.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by NelsonMinar » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 1:55 AM UTC

aequitas wrote: post #110

NelsonMinar wrote: post #25

The release notes say "completely new NTP client and server implementation". Anyone know what they went with?

systemd-timesyncd? ;)

I think you're kidding? That's not an NTP server. It's not a very good NTP client, either.

I'm hoping they switched to chrony but I don't know.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by locusm » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 2:07 AM UTC

iso1210 wrote: post #46

mindslight wrote: post #18

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I've got a few Mikrotik devices (CRS328, CSS326). Maybe I just haven't gotten it, but I find their RouterOS WebUI extremely confusing. Like go into three separate top-level tabs to assign a VLAN to a port. The CLI is okay, once you get stuff working and just need to duplicate/modify lines. Mikrotik's SwOS is alright and has most of the options you'd expect from a switch, but is missing the ability to have a human rea…

Yes, mikrotiks separate bridges, vlans, interfaces. If you want to set ether 3, 4 and 5 to untagged vlan called "Alf" with ID 11, ether 6 to untablled vlan "Bob" (id 12), and ether 7 and 8 to a trunk of both Alf and Bob, you can do 1) Create a bridge for Alf, and a bridge for Bob 2) Assign IPs for them (assuming your mikrotik is the router), and maybe dhcp pools, server etc 3) add ether3, 4 and 5 as bridge ports for…

Whats the recommended way to config VLANs if mixing recent Mikrotik router with existing Unifi switches & AP's.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by locusm » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 2:19 AM UTC

Ive replaced Ubiquiti Unifi routers with Mikrotik RB5009's and its resultant bang for buck is impressive. The Ubiquiti Edge series is capable too but hasnt had feature updates in months. Ubiquiti product direction currently feels like a massive cluster f*k and isnt improving.

Some nice features you may not realise exist on RouterOS 7 are built-in support for Wireguard VPN and ZeroTier client support.

https://mikrotik.com/product/rb5009ug_s_in

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by tw04 » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 2:24 AM UTC

imiric wrote: post #144

ericd wrote: post #132

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I've been considering replacing my EdgeRouter with a pfsense box (probably the Netgate 6100), have you been dissatisfied with your Netgate?

I also have an EdgeRouter, but will probably replace that last since it works fine and doesn't require any of the Ubiquiti Controller / Cloud shenanigans. I've had intermittent LAN dropouts on the SG3100 that I couldn't explain from the logs. That in addition to Netgate's hostility towards open source with how they're handling pfSense, and the whole pfSense+ product, just puts a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to…

Why not just go to opnsense? That’s what most folks have moved to that have gotten fed up with netgates shenanigans.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by daydream » Wed, Dec 08, 2021, 2:49 AM UTC

dont__panic wrote: post #83

ok_dad wrote: post #76

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Thanks for that, it is what I figured. I have a really old, nice, router running one of the WRT-like OSes and I really, really don't want to do that anymore. I have a small family and do not want to mess with this stuff. I might just bite the bullet and hook up a few more of the Google routers. I hate using Google, and don't trust them, but I probably trust them more than most other brands in this space. Also, I can'…

Yeah, I've been frustrated with the router space for a while recently so I figured you might benefit from my research (and likely bias as well). Too bad others in this thread downvoted me without responding, though -- if anybody can recommend a decent answer to this question that I didn't cover or explain why I'm wrong, I'm happy to admit that. I would really like there to be a decent router out there for my use case…

I got an Amplifi Alien recently. They are expensive!!! but it has been rock solid and makes full use of my gigabit uplink. I disabled all the cloud stuff so no issues there. I wanted something fast and reliable that I wouldn’t ever have to mess with, and didn’t mind paying more to get it. Wi-Fi is fast on this thing. First run experience was total crap but once I got past that no issues. I recommend it.