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Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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Re: Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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Does Amazon host its core infrastructure in us-east-1?

why wouldn't they?

Because it's terrible and has always been terrible?

After 2017 I'll never use US-east-1 again. Hell... I should have learned that particular lesson in 2011 but it took two catastrophic failures for me to figure it out.

There are numerous threads here on HN covering the topic "why does US-east-1 suck so hard."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13756082 is just one example.

Re: Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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Does Amazon host its core infrastructure in us-east-1?

Yes, and also:

[9:37 AM PST] We are seeing impact to multiple AWS APIs in the US-EAST-1 Region. This issue is also affecting some of our monitoring and incident response tooling, which is delaying our ability to provide updates.

https://status.aws.amazon.com/

Re: Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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I thought the whole point of AWS that it was a distributed system with no one point of failure? In that case, how did it have an outage?

I guess on a load balancer or DNS level? A request has to hit a single domain name / IP before it's load balanced to the distributed system right?

Multiple devices in very different parts of the world can respond to the same IP address. A great example are DNS servers like 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8- you get routed to the nearest site that can handle your request. A common example of how this is implemented is via anycast: https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/cdn/glossary/anycast-net...

Re: Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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If this outage isn’t the catalyst to get the Amazon side of the house to finally move out of US-east, I don’t know what will be. Or at least be multi-region. Although the cost to make all of Amazon commerce, logistics, and digital truly multi-region is probably an order of magnitude more than the impact of this outage.

True. But let's be honest... this is neither the first such outage in US-east-1 nor the last. So I'd argue it's long past time for Amazon to pay the bill and go multi-region.

Re: Amazon packages pile up after AWS outage spawns delivery havoc

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Does Amazon host its core infrastructure in us-east-1?

why wouldn't they?

us-east-1 is considered to be the least stable AWS US datacenter. Not sure if this has changed, but I believe it was because AWS uses us-east-1 as the “proving ground” for deployment of new services, systems, processes, etc.
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