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Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by quesera »

ValentineC wrote: post #147
dont__panic wrote: post #72

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Hot take: All routers completely suck right now, and most of them are built to spy on your network at worst and accidentally expose you to cyberattacks at best. There are two choices, the way I see it: 1. Invest in a decent router (probably $150-200 at least) and throw openwrt on it. You'll need something with serious CPU beef because openwrt relies more on software than hardware, and most routers use hardware for Qo…

> 1. Invest in a decent router (probably $150-200 at least) and throw openwrt on it. You'll need something with serious CPU beef because openwrt relies more on software than hardware, and most routers use hardware for QoS etc., hence the price tag. You'll also need to actually understand the multitude of settings offered by openwrt if you care at all about security or performance -- this is nontrivial if you aren't a…

In my (extensive) experience on several different hardware platforms, OpenWRT is far more stable and featureful than stock firmware.

In the worst case, stock firmware would require a hard reset (power cycle) every few weeks. I've had OpenWRT firmware running without interruption (on UPS) for years at a time.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by oynqr »

james_in_the_uk wrote: post #134
stingraycharles wrote: post #68

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Big supporter of Mikrotik here, it’s a perfect middle ground between consumer “crap”, and $10,000 enterprise network equipment. Rolled out a 10gbit / 25gbit network at home. My biggest complaints are: * Wireless is really difficult to get “decent speeds”. I also have my ISP’s router and a Draytek at home, these easily do 500mbit, and it’s nearly impossible to get my router board to do the same. When asking support th…

Top tip - if your Mikrotik APs will run OpenWRT, do it. https://openwrt.org/toh/mikrotik/common Standalone wireless on Mikrotik is bad. CapsMan is even worse as it seems to hobble some of the standalone settings. Mikrotik are good at engineering routers but bad at engineering Wifi drivers. I tried every which way to get Mikrotik wifi to work well, at reasonable speed, without dropping packets when roaming. No dice. N…

The HEX S is really nice for OpenWRT too :)

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by [deleted] »

wmf wrote: post #105
_joel wrote: post #97

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It can run on bare metal x86, surely you could get enough grunt. Do you still need ASICs for packet mangling?

x86 router: 1 Tbps for $30K ASIC router: 10 Tbps for $10K And the efficiency also scales down; ASICs should be faster for any budget above $2K.

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Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by simplyaccont »

imiric wrote: post #127
ok_dad wrote: post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

I'm currently in the process of moving my home network from Ubiquiti to an open solution with a few Mikrotik RBM11Gs to serve as APs, and will probably also replace my Netgate SG-3100 with pfSense with likely a PC Engines machine. All will probably be running OpenWrt, though if that's too limiting / buggy, I'll just use plain Linux or OpenBSD on them. The major benefit of this setup is that you don't depend on some m…

i build in the past a few times APs with compex cards. the problem it's that some of them have extra large form factor and won't fit standard mpcie slots. i had to build an adapter :/ eventually instead of upgrading to new iteration i got a couple of netgear r7800 and flashed them with openwrt. the router is on separate x86 box

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by Peanuts99 »

dont__panic wrote: post #72
ok_dad wrote: post #27

So, what's the best wifi gateway with extra access points for a home that I don't have to screw with and doesn't spy on me or have cloud crap? My ISP sent a Google wifi thing but I'd rather pay a few hundred than use that for 10 bucks a month to rent that thing, and I don't trust Google. Edit: Thanks for all the answers, from me and anyone else who was looking! I have some good ideas from the below comments and hopef…

Hot take: All routers completely suck right now, and most of them are built to spy on your network at worst and accidentally expose you to cyberattacks at best. There are two choices, the way I see it: 1. Invest in a decent router (probably $150-200 at least) and throw openwrt on it. You'll need something with serious CPU beef because openwrt relies more on software than hardware, and most routers use hardware for Qo…

Instead of buying out of date kit, just buy a second hand Ruckus AP and call it a day. No telemetry and you can set it up in 10 minutes. They're enterprise grade and will last 10 years or more.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by ericd »

imiric wrote: post #144
ericd wrote: post #132

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I've been considering replacing my EdgeRouter with a pfsense box (probably the Netgate 6100), have you been dissatisfied with your Netgate?

I also have an EdgeRouter, but will probably replace that last since it works fine and doesn't require any of the Ubiquiti Controller / Cloud shenanigans. I've had intermittent LAN dropouts on the SG3100 that I couldn't explain from the logs. That in addition to Netgate's hostility towards open source with how they're handling pfSense, and the whole pfSense+ product, just puts a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to…

Got it, thanks very much for the summary! Agreed that the EdgeRouter is fine, but the one I have is a bit anemic (ER Lite), and I've been disappointed with Ubiquiti's push for increased telemetry/phoning home, so I didn't want to buy a more powerful ER to replace it.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by ericd »

magicalhippo wrote: post #143
ericd wrote: post #132

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I've been considering replacing my EdgeRouter with a pfsense box (probably the Netgate 6100), have you been dissatisfied with your Netgate?

Unless something radical has changed in the last half year or so, pfSense will be a giant PITA if you have "residential" IPv6. That is, anything but a completely static prefix.

Oh interesting, thanks for the heads up.

Re: MikroTik RouterOS v7 stable released

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Post by broknbottle »

donmcronald wrote: post #150
imiric wrote: post #127

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I'm currently in the process of moving my home network from Ubiquiti to an open solution with a few Mikrotik RBM11Gs to serve as APs, and will probably also replace my Netgate SG-3100 with pfSense with likely a PC Engines machine. All will probably be running OpenWrt, though if that's too limiting / buggy, I'll just use plain Linux or OpenBSD on them. The major benefit of this setup is that you don't depend on some m…

Have you ever looked at VyOS ( https://vyos.io/ )? IIRC EdgeOS was a fork of Vyatta and Vyatta became VyOS. Their LTS pricing doesn't work for small businesses, but the rolling release might be an option for home use. It's sad that everyone only wants to accept huge amounts of cash these days. Take VyOS as an example. The smallest licensing option they have is $6k per year for unlimited installs. That makes it comple…

Take a look at DANOS. It’s the open source version of ATT’s Vyatta.

https://www.danosproject.org/

https://danosproject.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/DAN/pages/819...

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