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It’s bloody annoying when all I want to do is vacuum the floor and Roomba says nope, “active AWS incident”.
If all you wanted to do was vacuum the floor you would not have gotten that particular vacuum cleaner. Clearly you wanted to do more than just vacuum the floor and something like this happening should be weighed with the purchase of the vacuum.
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This seems like an insane stance to have, it's like saying businesses should ship their own stock, using their own drivers, and their in-house made cars and planes and in-house trained pilots. Heck, why stop at having servers on-site? Cast your own silicon waffers, after all you don't want spectrum exploits. Because you are worst at it. If a specialist is this bad, and the market is fully open, then it's because the…
Apple created their own silicon. Fedex uses its own pilots. The USPS uses it's own cars. If you're a company relying upon AWS for your business, is it okay if you're down for a day, or two while you wait for AWS to resolve it's issue?
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this is why everyone runs piholes and no one sees ads on the internet anymore, which killed the internet ad industry
Dear person from the future, can you give me a hint on who wins the upcoming sporting events? I'm asking for a friend of course
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Slack, as of last year. https://slack.com/blog/news/slack-aws-drive-development-agil...
And before that, Amazon Chime was the messaging and conferencing tool. Now that I'm not using it, I actually miss it a lot!
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/4/21280829/slack-amazon-aws-...
Re: AWS us-east-1 outage
#835Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems like an insane stance to have, it's like saying businesses should ship their own stock, using their own drivers, and their in-house made cars and planes and in-house trained pilots. Heck, why stop at having servers on-site? Cast your own silicon waffers, after all you don't want spectrum exploits. Because you are worst at it. If a specialist is this bad, and the market is fully open, then it's because the…
> AWS (and all other IAAS providers) will beg you to use multiple region will they? because AWS still puts new stuff in us-east-1 before anywhere else, and there is often a LONG delay before those things go to other regions. there are many other examples of why people use us-east-1 so often, but it all boils down to this: AWS encourage everyone to use us-east-1 and discourage the use of other regions for the same rea…
Re: AWS us-east-1 outage
#836I worked at a company that hired an ex-Amazon engineer to work on some cloud projects. Whenever his projects went down, he fought tooth and nail against any suggestion to update the status page. When forced to update the status page, he'd follow up with an extremely long "post-mortem" document that was really just a long winded explanation about why the outage was someone else's fault. He later explained that in his…
I don't know if you're exaggerating or not, but even if true why would anyone show that emotion about losing a job in the worst case?
You certainly had a lot of relevate-to-todays-top-hn-post stories throughout you career. And I'm less and less surprised to continuously find PragmaticPulp as one of the top commenters if not the top that resonates with a good chunk of HN.
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#837I think now is a good time to reiterate the danger of companies just throwing all of their operational resilience and sustainability over the wall and trusting someone else with their entire existence. It's wild to me that so many high performing businesses simply don't have a plan for when the cloud goes down. Some of my contacts are telling me that these outages have teams of thousands of people completely prevente…
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#838Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems like an insane stance to have, it's like saying businesses should ship their own stock, using their own drivers, and their in-house made cars and planes and in-house trained pilots. Heck, why stop at having servers on-site? Cast your own silicon waffers, after all you don't want spectrum exploits. Because you are worst at it. If a specialist is this bad, and the market is fully open, then it's because the…
they usually beg you to use multiple availability zones though I'm not sure how many aws services are easy to spawn at multiple regions
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> This issue is affecting the global console landing page, which is also hosted in US-EAST-1 Even this little tidbit is a bit of a wtf for me. Why do they consider it ok to have anything hosted in a single region? At a different (unnamed) FAANG, we considered it unacceptable to have anything depend on a single region. Even the dinky little volunteer-run thing which ran https://internal.site.example/~someEngineer was…
Every damn Well-Architected Framework includes multi-AZ if not multi-region redundancy, and yet the single access point for their millions of customers is single-region. Facepalm in the form of $100Ms in service credits.
Part of me wonders how much they're actually going to pay out, given that their own status page has only indicated five services with moderate ("Increased API Error Rates") disruptions in service.
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> This seems like an insane stance to have, it's like saying businesses should ship their own stock, using their own drivers, and their in-house made cars and planes and in-house trained pilots. > Heck, why stop at having servers on-site? Cast your own silicon waffers, after all you don't want spectrum exploits. That's an overblown argument. Nobody is saying that, but it's clear that businesses that maintain their ow…
>, but it's clear that businesses that maintain their own infrastructure would've avoided today's AWS' outage. When Netflix was running its own datacenters in 2008, they had a 3 day outage from a database corruption and couldn't ship DVDs to customers. That was the disaster that pushed CEO Reed Hastings to get out of managing his own datacenters and migrate to AWS. The flaw in the reasoning that running your own hard…