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All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

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Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

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99 years to enter public domain... I don't think this is fair.

What do you think is reasonable? 14? 24? 50?

Maybe 10 years. We are moving at breakneck speed in just about every corner, but copyright protections. A decade is forever in today's world.

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

#12
post #4

99 years to enter public domain... I don't think this is fair.

What do you think is reasonable? 14? 24? 50?

I was going to go with 10 years. I mean, nobody cared about Madonna's "Ray Of Light" beyond 1999.

On the other hand, artists - like Dolly Parton - have made long careers out of songwriting that have carried them into their senior years, so it's a balance.

Clearly 99 years is absurd. Maybe 20 years is the balance to strike. Dolly would still be doing just fine with that term.

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

#13
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think is reasonable? 14? 24? 50?

Maybe 10 years. We are moving at breakneck speed in just about every corner, but copyright protections. A decade is forever in today's world.

But there's plenty of things made 10 years ago that are still very relevant and still generating money for the creators. I think that's the concern.

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

#14
post #8

Does this offer a sort of land-grab opportunity where anyone who has an original recording can remaster it, convert to mp3, then claim copyright over that "transformation" of the original?

Doesn't it have to be changed in some way? Changing the storage format doesn't change the actual work. I assume you're talking about the Fair Use clause where something has to be different enough from the original to be re-claimed as new?

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

#15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe 10 years. We are moving at breakneck speed in just about every corner, but copyright protections. A decade is forever in today's world.

But there's plenty of things made 10 years ago that are still very relevant and still generating money for the creators. I think that's the concern.

Yeah. New Order are still making good money from Blue Monday from 1983, and clearly there’s a lot of interest in The Beatles still.

Maybe a shorter period of time with an option to extend it like a snooze feature on an alarm clock.

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

#18
post #8

Does this offer a sort of land-grab opportunity where anyone who has an original recording can remaster it, convert to mp3, then claim copyright over that "transformation" of the original?

No, because the original is still in the public domain. Copyright law is pretty good about defining “derivative works”, and someone’s remaster is not going to hold up as a copyrightable contribution.

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

#19

99 years to enter public domain... I don't think this is fair.

i think this is fair and we will likely see it extended further.

the media works of today cost way more than they did before. some songs cost millions to produce. some movies hundreds of millions. some video games billions of dollars. and the longevity of media has increased over time.

we may not watch much 1920s movies but we do watch movies from the 50s and 60s. and i think recent movies will last even longer since the production value is so high

i think we will see this in video games the most. they will continue to be revenue sources in digital formats and companies will be defensive over losing them

Re: All sound recordings prior to 1923 will enter the US public domain in 2022

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post #15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there's plenty of things made 10 years ago that are still very relevant and still generating money for the creators. I think that's the concern.

Yeah. New Order are still making good money from Blue Monday from 1983, and clearly there’s a lot of interest in The Beatles still. Maybe a shorter period of time with an option to extend it like a snooze feature on an alarm clock.

But does having a work enter public domain automatically mean that eg New Order will stop getting paid for streams via legitimate services like Spotify?
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