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WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”

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Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”

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BLKNSLVR wrote: post #169
EMM_386 wrote: post #148

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> I wholeheartedly do not believe in making aircraft safety a democratic process. But if I read you correctly ("society's ability to change politics") ... this is how the US got things like January 6th. It's completely destabilizing for a functioning democracy when relatively small groups of like-minded people can coordinate over private channels and rally themselves into something crazy. The reason politics "works"…

> I am actually in favor of E2E encrypted chats and the like. But we need to keep politics out in the light of day. That aligns with my position. I fundamentally believe in the necessity of transparency in politics. What I don't believe in is the the necessity of government / law enforcement snooping on E2E encrypted chats. I don't want back-channel politics, I want back-channel private conversations amongst the citi…

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Post by philliphaydon »

baby wrote: post #163
philliphaydon wrote: post #62

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What's App is not secure.

Wow, lots of FUD here. Well, keep downvoting and telling people to install a messaging app without end-to-end encryption if you want. Doesn't make you right.

I didn’t tell anyone to install anything. I just said what’s all is not secure. Because it’s not.

Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”

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Post by hornokpleas »

PennRobotics wrote: post #161
hornokpleas wrote: post #101

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In the Whatsapp group, you don't have to share anything about yourself or your child that you don't want to. The daycare might only post very generic info about opening times, events, etc, or it might be one used only for parents to communicate among themselves, at their option. Facebook know who is in the group and what they post but none of it is necessarily confidential information. On the other hand, the daycare…

The fact that the bar for data privacy should be very high for the daycare shouldn't diminish the need for data privacy in the daycare-recommended parent group. I've broken contact with a reasonably tech-savvy part of my family. I have to decide between being informed about current events and hoping the next Meta leak doesn't have my full name, number, hometown, and possibly group memberships.

Most people are not like you.

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Post by humpydumpy »

14 wrote: post #9
1cvmask wrote: post #2

Old habits and mindsets never seem to change despite corporate pronouncements and PR puff pieces written by stenographers. The regulators (and legislators) are either the biggest dupes, or much more likely in on it. Let’s not forget the FTC hookup for Netflix by Obama and the eventual payout when he left office. Or Ajit Pai who came from Verizon to run the FTC and undid the Obama era changes favorable to Netflix and…

Last I checked signal still needs a phone number so that is an issue. Lots of people use smartphones with no sim hooked up and wifi only. I was using wire for a bit but my 2 contacts were forced signed out and the password and password reset does not work only option is to start a new account and now they too were asking for a phone number. So onto something else I guess.

yes, signal requiring a phone number is the problem, and the only reason why I am not using it. In the last 10 years I have lived in 4 different countries, each time switching phone numbers. It is stupid to use such an unstable number as identity. My e-mail address has remained constant during the whole time. And I do like to have different addresses for different groups of people.

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Post by tekknik »

Someone wrote: post #87
nextaccountic wrote: post #23

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The news here is that you can't choose to not share data with Facebook anymore.

It’s not practical for most, but I think you can, by moving to the European Region. Comparing https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/updates/terms-of-service/?lan... to https://www.whatsapp.com/legal/terms-of-service-eea/?lang=en , the EU version removes - “Ways To Improve Our Services. We analyze how you make use of WhatsApp, in order to improve our Services, including helping businesses who use WhatsApp measure the effecti…

> It’s not practical for most, but I think you can, by moving to the European Region.

Or I can’t just not use WhatsApp. It’s not like it does anything more than any of the other messaging services.

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Post by sneak »

sidr wrote: post #160
sneak wrote: post #159

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Tell the people in the sports club that you don't have WhatsApp and that it's rude to force parents to do business with Facebook just for their kids to play sports. When you cave and install WA, you make it harder for the next parent, just as all the ones before you made it harder for you. If you want to be rid of these things, you can't get there by using them because you think you have to.

The people in the sports club will roll their eyes at you because [they think] you are a tin-foil hat wearing lunacy who is paranoid about surveillance from the boogeyman. They will refuse to switch their mode of communication that works for them and everyone else for one person (you) who is just causing trouble for no reason. The vast majority of people don't think Facebook is the abhorrent service it is, and an eve…

> The people in the sports club will roll their eyes at you because [they think] you are a tin-foil hat wearing lunacy who is paranoid about surveillance from the boogeyman.

That's not true. A lot of people are a lot more concerned about their privacy these days.

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Post by tester89 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #170
m000 wrote: post #139

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I had started peddling Signal to my family members. Then Signal shot themselves in the foot by killing the SMS import functionality. SMS integration was the killer feature of Signal for bringing more people on board and get to a critical mass of users, where uninstalling WhatsApp would be a a viable option. It seems that you can still get the SMS import by first installing an old version that supported it and then up…

I don't understand normal peoples obsession with keeping their old SMS messages. I get that there are some cherished memories from loved ones living or passed, but, take a screenshot to be saved to the 'cloud'. And I'm even text-heavy when it comes to communication, but there are no conversations I have over SMS that are worth "re-living the moment" (in my experience). I've got Signal configured to delete any message…

Well not SMS, but I am scrolling through my conversations. It’s odd, but I enjoy reliving them.

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Post by johnisgood »

johnisgood wrote: post #80
Djejdbdbsjs123 wrote: post #55

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I see. I've only added contacts in person via QR code. I guess it would be more difficult without that.

Yeah, you just do a single click on "+" (which says "Start chat"), and then it says on top "Start a conversation with someone using their name, email address or username (like @foobar:matrix.org).", so you just type in @username:server. Is it difficult? Could it get any easier? There might be other ways as well, such as the one you mentioned.

Apparently there are more ways! You can provide your phone number so people can find your Matrix ID from their pre-existing contact phone number.

Seems like it has everything a non-technical person would want.

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