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Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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Applying for a new job shouldn't be this stressful & them being so unprepared is absurd considering the company. It definitely speaks volumes about the environment that you will be subjected to for 8+ hours a day & its fair that you choose not to put up with it. I have also experienced having to quit shortly after starting a new job, I soon realized that my efforts were not going to be matched or acknowledged in a place where there was little to no organization & the supervisor could treat you as he pleased, if he even allowed you to speak to him that is since he was always so "busy". :s

Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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I don’t mean to be rude to those who are seeking a living, but let’s call this what it is. It’s not a hiring process. There is no interview. They aren’t interested in working with you to figure out if you’re a good fit for each other. They’re trawling the ocean and filtering the catch through drug and background tests. They process countless people every day, constantly replacing others who have broken down or reache…

Yeah, the idea of automation replacing manual labor to free the workers for higher value work never really panned out. All the free thought got automated and the only reason people are needed is because they are best at grabbing and manipulating arbitrarily shaped objects. It feels inhumane.

It actually did. Very few people are needed to do basic farm labor compared to 150 years ago, and way more people are in jobs that involve minimal manual labor and instead necessitate education.

Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't earn better pay and benefits because we are special, brilliant people. We are given these benefits because there is a perpetual labor shortage of people who have enough tech experience to do their employers' bidding and nobody will show up if they don't doll these out. In other words, we are a fluke, and we'll lose these benefits once they figure out how to commoditize software development. Which is a pretty…

I look at things like Dynamics 365 and other no-code/low-code "solutions" and I fear that we're just about at that point.

People have been trying to get low or no code solutions to work for a very long time now. The problem is that they a) they tend to be limited in the scope of the problems they’re appropriate for, and b) if you try to solve really complicated issues with them, you usually run into the same difficulty problems that you do with regular coding.

Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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I highly mistrust anything on /r/antiwork. So many of the posts are the “and everyone clapped” variety but get hundreds or thousands of upvotes, I’m pretty sure it’s at least half a troll karma farm.

I believe that the rule goes that for any popular "story" based subreddit with no verification, assume that 99% of the content is False. The more popular the subreddit, the faster this converges. These villain-based story subs typically come with a nice template of "X did Y to me, Y is obviously bad, I responded".

Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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I don’t mean to be rude to those who are seeking a living, but let’s call this what it is. It’s not a hiring process. There is no interview. They aren’t interested in working with you to figure out if you’re a good fit for each other. They’re trawling the ocean and filtering the catch through drug and background tests. They process countless people every day, constantly replacing others who have broken down or reache…

This is a ridiculous view. So then all software engineering is pressing the right keys on the keyboard at the right time just like a pianist. Reductionism used to throw rocks at a labor intensive enterprise that Amazon is preposterous and distracting from real issues.

I like the piano analogy.

A really bad pianist will maybe hit some if the notes correctly sometimes. Like a really bad software developer through sheer luck might hit copy and paste shortcuts on the right stackoverflow post from time to time. But you will fire both very fast.

A good enough pianist will proba ly hit all the right notes most of the time. Like a good enough software developer who will write software that works most of the time because he hit the right keys most of time. Probably a combination of being reasonably good at finding the right stackoverflow posts most of the time and some general knowledge of ifs and for loops.

Then there's the pianist that that actually feels the music on the sheet. That doesn't just read the sterile notes on the sheet. Or a software developer that writes readable, maintainable code in 'no time'.

Theres a nice TED talk on this topic. I think he compares pianists of various ages to show this. Benjamin Zander, a famous conductor. Worth the watch even if you don't like classical music if you ask me.

https://www.ted.com/speakers/benjamin_zander

Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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I highly mistrust anything on /r/antiwork. So many of the posts are the “and everyone clapped” variety but get hundreds or thousands of upvotes, I’m pretty sure it’s at least half a troll karma farm.

Most of the top posts have very similar construction: Employee: I can't come in today for a very good reason. Boss (rudely): You have to come in or you're fired. Employee: I quit. +1000 karma

guess why it resonates with so many people

Re: I lasted three minutes at Amazon

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post #116

I highly mistrust anything on /r/antiwork. So many of the posts are the “and everyone clapped” variety but get hundreds or thousands of upvotes, I’m pretty sure it’s at least half a troll karma farm.

While they usually seem to have started off fairly sincere, /r/antiwork like many of the subreddits dedicated to telling stories about ridiculous behavior in others seems to have quickly changed into more of a place where people practice creative writing. /r/TalesFromTechSupport, /JUSTNOMIL, /r/AmITheAsshole, /r/MaliciousCompliance, and many others. The stories can be fun but under no circumstances should anyone take…

/talesfromtechsupport just isn't the same without airz
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