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Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

This isn't so bad but consider new Reddit vs. old Reddit. If "new" were to become the only way to access Reddit, I would probably abandon it.

They don't need to force you to migrate, the new site pushes people into mindless meme sharing only, and completely altered the contents of the site already.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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This is what I like about chrome extensions, you can modify things, store your own stuff, etc...

I am curious I don't think Wikipedia does it/would do it but I have seen some sites break if you modify their DOM.

I think including CSS overrides would be different but YT is an example where injecting something into their DOM has an error show up in console.

Wondering if that was a concern for you.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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post #59

Wikipedia itself is also working on a new UI: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Desktop_Improveme... The English Wikipedia isn't one of the "early adopter wikis" but if you visit, say, the French-language Wikipedia you can see the changes (e.g., different width to improve readability).

Wow, it's much more readable (though a bit disjointed): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing#History https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatique#Histoire

It's a lot of what m.wikipedia.com looks like, actually. Just hitting m. on any given Wiki article on a Desktop makes it so much easier to read in my experience. YMMV. :)

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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post #182
post #74

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I agree with you except the one pain point that Wikipedia still continues to use "m.*" sub-domains for displaying mobile content. I know most people exclusively use mobile these days but I use desktop browsers for reading more than 60% of the time and its really annoying to click on a Wikipedia link on HN/Reddit and having it open the mobile site on desktop. It's OK to use m.* subdomains instead of reactive design bu…

What bothers me most about this is that if you go to www on a mobile device, it redirects you to m - that's great, and probably the "right" thing to do. There is probably a "View Desktop Version" link on the mobile page, somewhere. But if you go to the m subdomain on a desktop device, there's no easy way to get to the desktop version without manually changing the URL. If you can redirect from www to m, surely you can…

I feel like there's the issue on Reddit

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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I want to use this. Looks really nice. I know there are people here who are crying for information density, but I’m not one of them. The majority of people will be happier when there’s room for content to breathe. My one sadness— no Safari support! Safari has gotten better with its extensions API support.. is it just the the store that’s preventing you?

I think you're missing the mark a bit with the `density` and `room for content to breath` space. While I generally prefer to not hide (common) actions behind menus, and have some (imho) better design to surface these types of things I can accept it. The current trend with giving content all the room and shoving every little action into a pop-out is getting a bit much. We all have massive displays, even on our phones, and we _can_ show the more common actions (in this case, history, edit, etc) instead of hiding everything behind a `...` or a hamburger menu.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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I just moved them to the bottom of the article. In part this is because I feel inline links on wikipedia often lets you overestimate how well you comprehend a subject. It's as though the fact that there is a link over a word makes you think you could go check what that is, and therefore that you probably understand the word. Actually looking up some term mid sentence is also probably not particularly helpful for unde…

Oh, ha, I didn't even notice that. Ok, I like that! I was actually looking at the footnote links, and those do indeed seem to be missing entirely -- as well as the whole references section. Arguably that's more important than links to "definition" wiki pages, so it forms the basis for the knowledge (vs mostly just definitions).

Yeah, I removed those entirely, as I very rarely use those. More often than not the links are pay walled and the references are books that may or may not even be in print. Maybe it's useful if you have a university library at hand but I don't so I simply live with the fact that some of the things I've read may be wrong.

If you want to look up sources it's better to use the live wikipedia at any rate, since it will be more up to date than this snapshot.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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post #8
post #3

Looks good, but I think the adjective "modern" to be overly aggressive towards other design trends. From what I saw, the design trend here is for a flat and rounded interface with dynamic searches.

Thanks, glad you like it :) With the name, I was just thinking more in terms of "modernized"... as in, something more modern than the current Wikipedia design... but I get your point! I'll have a think about it.

Maybe slim or slick :)
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