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Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

Yeah this is great but I'd rather stick with the tightly wound tools at Wikimedia, they probably know what they're doing more than this anemic blasphemy

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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This feels like a failing on Microsoft’s part, at least for current versions of Windows. The bar for a viable system font has been raised and it’s their responsibility as an OS vendor to ensure the bar is met across localizations. As for old versions of Windows… well, one should probably look at their target market/user base. If your demographic is firmly Roman western use of system-ui is probably fine — as far as I’…

You can call it a failing on MS's part up until you have real users that are impacted because then it really doesn't matter who's fault it is when users can't use your site. So MS should fix this and until then you shouldn't use system-ui.

Why does a clumsy font mean you can't use the site? And why is the solution not to upgrade your 15-year-old dangerously-insecure EOL OS?

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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OP, thanks for making this, I bet it was fun to build. That being said, I want someone to do the opposite of what this does. Less chrome, less bytes over the wire, less predictive search, less "flatness?", less timely, more timeless .

Oh dang, yeah. An extension that makes the whole web look and work like the default Mediawiki skin would be glorious. And _fast_. I miss windows having borders. Just dug up a registry hack (obscene that such a thing was needed) to force win10 to have window borders again, because I keep ending up in situations where I honestly couldn't tell where one ends and the other begins. They spent decades researching and build…

why does a different set of CSS make it _fast_?

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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> But I would say that it's the HN commenters being incredibly obnoxious, not wikipedia being wrong for giving you the mobile site when you specifically ask for it. But it's kinda crazy that if I'm on my phone I can't just share a URL to a page with someone who happens to be using a desktop. While I'm not sure if this is made explicit in any of the RFCs or standard docs, in my view a URL should be a locator for a res…

> But it's kinda crazy that if I'm on my phone I can't just share a URL to a page with someone who happens to be using a desktop. > in my view a URL should be a locator for a resource that is agnostic of the user agent. You're not making sense. The mobile page has a dedicated URL. If you're browsing it, then sharing the URL will send anyone else to the same resource you're browsing, regardless of their user agent. Ev…

> You're not making sense.

The use case is: I go to the standard wikipedia page, browse a bit, and then I want to give out links to the standard wikipedia page of a specifig article.

This is currently not possible without editing the URL if you are on mobile. And I dont understand why wikipedia is refusing to fix this.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#166

I don't get this. If you want it to be narrower, make your browser window narrower. And by the way, you don't need an extension for the rest of the stuff, either. Wikipedia already supports per-user custom styling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:User_style

it's an off the shelf one click solution that gets me a more readable wikipedia

i have a huge 4k monitor and always open many browser tabs at once, some tabs I don't want the window to be narrow on, and others might be wikipedia

with this when I switch to my wikipedia tab i can just read it and it's very pleasing to the eye

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#167

It's a bit rough[0] at ultrawide resolutions, but then again what isn't? There's also a small padding issue[1] next to the sidebar when the column width is set high. Otherwise it looks pretty good. [0]: https://jagger.co/downloads/modern-wiki-wide.png [1]: https://jagger.co/downloads/modern-wiki-padding.png

Came to report these same two issues. The second one seems like a simple bug; I'd expect the text column to be centered in all cases. Not sure what the solution is for the first problem. Even in a normal width window the text box feels too narrow. Multi-column layout is too hard.

I really like this though!

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#168

I don't get this. If you want it to be narrower, make your browser window narrower. And by the way, you don't need an extension for the rest of the stuff, either. Wikipedia already supports per-user custom styling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:User_style

I was also confused, but it's actually a setting in the top-right menu, you can make it full width. Not sure why it's not the default.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

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Equally, I don't like it when websites try to guess what kind of browser I'm in and force me into the mobile experience when I have a window take up half the screen on a 1080p monitor, ... so I guess there's really no easy win for this :(

I think proper media queries breakpoints solve this

This is hard and often done wrong- mobile phones are usually high dpi and have gotten quite large, so it can be hard to distinguish between a large phone and half a desktop screen. Some people get quite annoyed by being bumped into a mobile experience when you resize your window from fullscreen on a laptop.

Re: Show HN: I made a modern web UI for Wikipedia

#170

I am one of those people who actually like Wikipedia the way it is. It's what I hoped the web to become. But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

That extension doesn't change how the web is. The web is still the same whether you use client side CSS override or not.

This is exactly how CSS and HTML were intended to operate and the kind of results to be expected.

> But i am sure there are people who will appreciate your effort. Thank you for your work.

How is that called ? A complimentsult ?

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