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Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by baybal2 »

wonderwonder wrote: post #43
baybal2 wrote: post #5

The Western world needs to resume to exert power, or let its inability to do so be seen as a weakness, a weakness which will invite further trouble. Burmese regime is one of world's most unruly, despotic, prolific, and it can be wiped out clean by US military with ease, without involving any of its allies. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/military-rape-12032...

Sure, and then how long do we leave troops there for? another 20 years and then we leave and everything goes back to the way it was? Conceptually I am all for the overthrow of despots and tyrants but the reality is we cannot keep sending the youth of America to various spots around the world to fight and die. America has a myriad of issues at home including spiraling inflation and we can ill afford to print more US d…

> Sure, and then how long do we leave troops there for? another 20 years and then we leave and everything goes back to the way it was?

1 option. Just destroy fixed assets, and most armour. US can do it in a few months of logistical preparations, and 1 week high intensity campaign.

2 option. Yes, but now build proper military hardpoint bases, and a proper government

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by dnautics »

brainlessdev wrote: post #11

Didn't know signing as "Jane Doe" was a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_defendants EDIT: to clarify, in this case "Jane Doe" is the plaintiff.

I learned of "Corporation Doe" through the epstein private suits.

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by throwawaycities »

throw7 wrote: post #35

Reminds me of IBM and WW2. Maybe a class action suit should be drawn up for IBM also?

Plenty of companies have been sued and paid out claims for their use of forced Jewish labor and other wrongs during WW2.

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by colinmhayes »

ryan93 wrote: post #34
bikeshaving wrote: post #14

Between the UN fact-finding mission saying Facebook played a “determining role” in the genocide, the Bosworth memo, and the shit ton of access we now have thanks to the whistleblower, how is this not a strong case?

I don’t see how Facebook is liable for the actions of other adults.maybe evidence comes out that Facebook actively encouraged it. But seems unlikely.

Facebook doesn't show content chronologically. Their algorithm decides what people see. They may not have purposefully pushed pro genocide content, but that doesn't mean they aren't liable if the court finds they were negligent in building the algorithm.

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Post by _blz2 »

1cvmask wrote: post #67

Obama graced Aung San Suu Kyi despite her well known track record. Obama also at similar times embraced Narendra Modi, despite his known track record. Obama even removed the Modi sanctions and visa block that George W Bush put on him after his alleged role in the Gujarat Muslim massacre/genocide. Newspapers gloated about Obama's bromance with Modi. Will they now sue Obama? https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/asia-and-…

Interesting how you portrayed Obama in a way that he's a does-only-good person. He played a huge role in Arab springs which destroyed more lives than any of the other alleged bad deeds you refer. Some probably should sue him, not for indirect roles, but direct ones.

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by baybal2 »

beachy wrote: post #48
baybal2 wrote: post #5

The Western world needs to resume to exert power, or let its inability to do so be seen as a weakness, a weakness which will invite further trouble. Burmese regime is one of world's most unruly, despotic, prolific, and it can be wiped out clean by US military with ease, without involving any of its allies. https://www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/military-rape-12032...

> Burmese regime is one of world's most unruly, despotic, prolific, and it can be wiped out clean by US military with ease, without involving any of its allies Maybe you missed the memo, but there is plenty of precedent for US getting its ass handed to it trying to "clean up" despotic states in SE Asia. And as far as doing it without allies, to quote Robert McNamara: > What makes us omniscient? Have we a record of om…

I am glad you unearthed NcNamara here.

US lost in Vietnam because people like him were idiots.

US military was not attacking, nor defending, but doing god knows what for entirety of the Vietnam campaign because cool kids like McNamara, Nixon, and Kisinger were coming up with their "innovative theories," and trying "redefining the nature of warfare, and politics."

For the entirety of Vietnam war, US military had the full logistic, intelligence, tactical, and technical capability to completely crush the North with ease.

The question is why it didn't?

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by whoknowswhat11 »

bikeshaving wrote: post #14

Between the UN fact-finding mission saying Facebook played a “determining role” in the genocide, the Bosworth memo, and the shit ton of access we now have thanks to the whistleblower, how is this not a strong case?

Here is a bit more detail on this determined role they took to spread the speech from reuters.

"To this day, the company continues to rely heavily on users reporting hate speech in part because its systems struggle to interpret Burmese text.

Even now, Facebook doesn’t have a single employee in the country of some 50 million people. Instead, it monitors hate speech from abroad. This is mainly done through a secretive operation in Kuala Lumpur that’s outsourced to Accenture, the professional services firm, and codenamed “Project Honey Badger.”

According to people familiar with the matter, the project, which handles many Asian countries, hired its first two Burmese speakers, who were based in Manila, just three years ago. As of June, Honey Badger had about 60 people reviewing reports of hate speech and other content posted by Myanmar’s 18 million active Facebook users. Facebook itself in April had three full-time Burmese speakers at a separate monitoring operation at its international headquarters in Dublin, according to a former employee."

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by wonderwonder »

baybal2 wrote: post #71
wonderwonder wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, and then how long do we leave troops there for? another 20 years and then we leave and everything goes back to the way it was? Conceptually I am all for the overthrow of despots and tyrants but the reality is we cannot keep sending the youth of America to various spots around the world to fight and die. America has a myriad of issues at home including spiraling inflation and we can ill afford to print more US d…

> Sure, and then how long do we leave troops there for? another 20 years and then we leave and everything goes back to the way it was? 1 option. Just destroy fixed assets, and most armour. US can do it in a few months of logistical preparations, and 1 week high intensity campaign. 2 option. Yes, but now build proper military hardpoint bases, and a proper government

During both of your options, how do you think China reacts to a massive US military invasion literally on its border?

Option 1, likely results in the government of Myanmar suddenly possessing dozens of previously unknown SAM batteries that just appeared as well as tens of thousands of troops that just materialized overnight wearing brand new Myanmar uniforms. The US loses thousands of troops and hundreds of billions in hardware. Likely evolves into a full on war with China where hundreds of thousands of people die.

Option 2 results in a full on war with China where hundreds of thousands of people die.

In both these options, China is just driving resources across the border. The us has a logistical nightmare where it has to move troops and resources halfway across the world.

Re: Class-action suit filed against Meta for facilitating Rohingya Genocide [pdf]

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Post by bikeshaving »

shadowgovt wrote: post #65
bikeshaving wrote: post #14

Between the UN fact-finding mission saying Facebook played a “determining role” in the genocide, the Bosworth memo, and the shit ton of access we now have thanks to the whistleblower, how is this not a strong case?

It's going to get into some very thick first-amendment weeds before section 230 protections are even introduced. Where do we draw the culpability line? Should Facebook have been legally obligated to ban those posts? If so, then if next week a failed coup attempt occurs in Burma to try and overthrow the military power that took control, should Facebook be held accountable for aiding and abetting the coup? We rapidly c…

I would love to learn more about which precedents are relevant to this case.
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