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Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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Since march of this year I stopped following my eye doctor's advice ("wear your glasses as much as possible otherwise your brain gets lazy", which is proven BS) and looked into endmyopia (i think i even read about it on HN), as I was getting into the risk zone for retinal detachment (6 diopters), which can lead to blindness. To sum it up: reduce the amount of near-work you do (looking at your monitor, smartphone, boo…

Can you give a summary of what the "endmyopia" process is?

The website claims the idea is based on peer reviewed research, but all the links and guides lead to what appears to be clickbait styled videos and testemonials. Overall it isn't clear and doesn't really sell the idea to me

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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As someone who suffers from recurrent corneal erosion (scratches on cornea, that are painful as hell) I incorporated a set of steps to manage this condition. 1. Daily eyelid hygiene - using special wipes to get the leftover from your eyelashes, to unblock Meibomian glands. It can dramatically improve how your eye is moistened. People who suffer from dry eye syndrome should at least try it. 2. Using eye drops daily -…

I had phototherapeutic keratectomy in both eyes (about a year apart) that basically cured my recurrent corneal erosion. I sleep in extended wear contact lenses most nights which help protect the cornea. I also have quite severe myopia so this is also convenient for when I wake up, using the toilet, wanting to know the time, reading the message that just arrived, etc. Then I just need some eye drops in the morning. I use eye ointment at night when I'm not wearing them.

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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As someone who suffers from recurrent corneal erosion (scratches on cornea, that are painful as hell) I incorporated a set of steps to manage this condition. 1. Daily eyelid hygiene - using special wipes to get the leftover from your eyelashes, to unblock Meibomian glands. It can dramatically improve how your eye is moistened. People who suffer from dry eye syndrome should at least try it. 2. Using eye drops daily -…

I had similar problems.

Eye drops in my case didn't help, it mostly was caused due to producing to little tears at night when I sleep, I can't put eye drops in when I sleep.

But there where some things which did help:

- eating/drinking healthy, while unclear it seems my tear under production was partially linked to a unhealthy diet

- eye hygiene helped a bit not much

- Making sure air humidity is at a good level during winter times helped too.

- And while it sounds ridiculous: Getting used to carefully open the eyes when waking up, like very very carefully. That probably helped better then all the other effects combined as most damage seems to have happened when opening the eyes when waking up.

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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Does anyone have any first hand experience with the blue light filtering glasses? Is it snake oil or does it actually work? My eyes aren’t great anyways, and I fear for the beating they are taking due to my proclivity to stare at a monitor hours on end.

I have a blue light filter on my glasses since ~3-4 years now, because an optician suggested it last time I fixed my glasses. I can affirm it has absolutely no effect on eye strain.

What actually works for me:

- be sure to have correct lenses for your glasses, sometime checking with an optician isn't enough and an ophthalmologist (i.e: a doctor) is required

- setup good lighting in your office/work area

- reduce display backlight during the day, when the daylight reduces

- do not set your display in front of a window, try to have it perpendicular instead. The contre-jour effect can be really tiring over time (i.e: when you're facing both the light source of your display and daylight)

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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post #43

Since march of this year I stopped following my eye doctor's advice ("wear your glasses as much as possible otherwise your brain gets lazy", which is proven BS) and looked into endmyopia (i think i even read about it on HN), as I was getting into the risk zone for retinal detachment (6 diopters), which can lead to blindness. To sum it up: reduce the amount of near-work you do (looking at your monitor, smartphone, boo…

i earlier dismissed endmyopia as a pseudoscience given doctors are against it. But it does make sense that eyeballs that have elongated beyond their size and hence caused myopia can also come back to their nature size improving vision as well. Gotta try it for myself though.

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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Women say they love mens eyes. So you have to work those out at the gym as well. I do eyelid lifts and eye rolls. 3 sets of 20 6 days a week with a rest day on Sunday. You can do these while on the treadmill and doing other excercise to increase efficiency. You can also mix in some beta carotene into your protein shake to really maximize the eye pump.

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Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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It helps to understand the mechanism your eyes use to focus. For eyes with normal vision, they are at their most relaxed when you are looking far away and your lens is at infinity focus. When you look at something close up, a muscle pulls on your lens to shift the focus point closer. (Additionally, as you get older, your lens gets harder, so it takes more pull to get it to focus closer , and you may need reading glasses once you can no longer focus as close up.) If you do close work all day, that muscle will be pulling all day, hence the recommendation to look at something far away every once in a while to give it the opportunity to relax.

What I did was to get a pair of computer glasses. I measured how far away I usually keep my monitors, and I took that information to my optometrist. She put the eye chart at that distance and we went through all the questions (is A better, or B?) to figure out the prescription. Now, when I'm at the computer, my eyes are at the same relaxed focus that they would normally be at for faraway things, and the computer glasses are providing the focus adjustment for close up.

I learned one other thing as well. If you have progressive lenses, only the small "intermediate" zone in the middle of the lens is really good for computer use. The top "far" zone makes your eyes work hard to focus close up, and the bottom "close" zone is generally focused too close for the computer screen. The problem is that you can't really scan well across the screen with your eyes while wearing progressives -- instead, you have to turn your head to keep the screen in that intermediate zone, which started to give me neck trouble. The computer glasses took care of that as well, since the whole lens is at the correct focus for the computer screen and you can scan with your eyes instead of your head.

One last thing. If you do hobbies or work that is really close up, I would recommend an Optivisor or a jeweler's loupe. I used to be able to do fine soldering without one, but I'm in my mid-30s now, and it really helps. And check the ergonomics for your setup. A high bench and a low chair, plus a Optivisor or a loupe, is way easier on the eyes and neck than a high chair and a low bench, which will make you crane your neck to get it closer to the work, and then strain your eyes from focusing so close. Look at a watchmaker at their bench for an example. There are plenty of watchmakers who work on tiny little parts into their 60s and 70s without messing up their vision.

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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post #69

Mine are in terrible shape, I blame screens and tiny fonts. For example I read the title of this article as "How are you taking care of you eyes?" instead of "your eyes" ;-)

Just so you know, in all the major browsers and operating system you can change the default zoom and font size, without a need for plugins.

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they are describing is presbyopia. It's caused by the hardening of your lens as you age that makes it less able to change shape to focus on close-up things. No fix that I'm aware of but there are work-arounds: 1) For people that already wear glasses, use bifocal/trifocal/progressive lenses 2) For people that don't wear corrective lenses, use "reading glasses" and constantly put them on and take them off as you s…

Presbyopia sneaks up on you. A few years ago I was teasing my older brother (in his early 50s) about the reading glasses he was wearing. He told me to try them out and when I did I felt like a gained a super-power - I hadn't realized my closeup vision had become "fuzzy" until then (I've had perfect vision all my life). Fast forward to today, my wife and I, both 50, have many sets of dollar store 1.25x reading glasses…

My wife, who is three years younger than me, used to tease me when she caught me squinting at something, or doing the old 'look through your fingertips' trick to see read some fine print.

Now she doesn't laugh anymore.

Everyone I've talked to says basically the same thing as you. It sneaks up. You don't realize at first the compensations you are using, unless someone says something. Or when the first thing you do on a new computer is crank up the font size. LOL.

Re: Ask HN: How are you taking care of you eyes?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be working in your favor. Most off the rack glasses are made with a 60mm PD because that's a good average. So if you have, say, a 62 mm PD and you're wearing them to use a laptop, your eyes will be converging a bit anyway. It is much worse if you have a narrow PD, say 56. Before convergence, you already have over 2 diopters of prism wanting to spread your eyes outward.

Oh interesting, thanks for letting me know. I'll have to look into that topic a bit more :) My PD is around 64mm and I'll be receiving glasses with that PD soon. It will be interesting to see if I notice any difference to my other glasses.

You're welcome. And just to clarify, I don't have anything against your process (I've used Zenni myself), I just wanted to make the point about being careful with the PD.
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