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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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I'm not sure why people are calling this satire. If you want to host a video, make it available through a URI, protect your ownership rights and then make sure it gets hosted for as long as possible, this is a way to do it.

The satire element comes the fact that doing it that way, while technically flawless, will get the creator as large an audience as piping the video to /dev/null.

"flawless"

I can't tell if this is satire.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

#92

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

I once got a new phone number and I tried to register to Twitter; apparently it's already used, by an account that is banned.

I managed to login to the account but there is no way to ask what's up. I followed the procedures, even wrote them an e-mail that as a EU citizen, I'd want them to forget anything related to me and my phone number. No reply.

Still probably doesn't work, don't care all that much though. Wasn't a Twitter user before, wasn't one after.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

#93

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

This is what works for me: I open a new personal account (using a fake name) every few months, when I open the new one I delete the old one. Obviously I don't use Google for anything important e.g. email.

Basically, at any given time I'm using a throwaway account. It's like Docker for Google accounts.

It's good because I could not care less about losing the account; another welcome side effect is that every few months I get a blank slate, that way I avoid becoming a prisoner of your own bubble e.g. in relation to Youtube suggestions.

PS when opening a new account Google will ask for SMS verification and recovery email address, I use those services that give you a throwaway email address and phone number - that way Google can't "follow me" across accounts.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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The satire element comes the fact that doing it that way, while technically flawless, will get the creator as large an audience as piping the video to /dev/null.

"flawless" I can't tell if this is satire.

Certainly it can't be easier than going to my YouTube account and pressing upload.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

#95

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I think it is, but I can't tell if this is satire.

Same for me, it feels like it's in a uncanny valley between clearly satiric and something some (not all/many) people (from the Web3.0 & DeFi) community might say.

You and several parent comments can't tell it's satire.

That is already telling.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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As far as I understood, the entire Google account was not suspended. Was that the case?

The user cannot log into their Google account. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29458794

Sorry if I was unclear, only Youtube is blocked for me now, gmail & rest of the account is fortunately still working.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

#97

Its becoming obvious that people shouldn't keep their stuff online on places they have 0 control. Even google's data liberation can't be used to take your data once account is blocked - if they allowed me to just use this one service after the blockade for a limited amount of time, I wouldn't have any problems. So it seeems that NextCloud and PeerTube should be must in this day and age... Mail seems most problematic…

It has been obvious for quite some time now. There still seem to be a lot of folks who need to learn the hard way that a megalomaniac overlord isn't a trustworthy steward of anything whatsoever.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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You have the power TODAY to change that. Do it before you lose access. Start with a Google Takeout and get your email out into your own domain as a starting point. Search "self hosting" for more details, even if you have no interest in running your own servers it gives you lots of good ideas to regain more control over your own data.

My main fear about that is not doing it properly and my email stop working as expected. For the nature of my job (press) I send a lot of emails to people who don-t know me, asking for interviews, etc. If my email starts to fall into spam folder, my job would be impossible. Gmail gives me that and I don't have to worry about if this person received the email or not.

Something like Mail-in-a-box[1] is easy to setup, you can monitor the spam stuff yourself, comes with all the instructions you need to get the DNS side of setup correctly etc

I've not had any issues with email not reaching people - and I'm not sure that other mailservers would put gmail any higher, especially as they are used for a lot of spam

[1] https://mailinabox.email/

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

#99
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why people are calling this satire. If you want to host a video, make it available through a URI, protect your ownership rights and then make sure it gets hosted for as long as possible, this is a way to do it.

The satire element comes the fact that doing it that way, while technically flawless, will get the creator as large an audience as piping the video to /dev/null.

Oh, I missed on that. And yes, that is true.

I can't help think that for a hackathon, it's a pretty good use case for something like this. The organizers can then take the files from wherever and post them to their YouTube channel for exposure and monetization if that's what they want.

I'd be furious if I ended up posting some video, mandatory on YouTube, for a fun week-end hackathon and ending up with my entire YouTube account suspended. So if I ever do end up organizing a hackathon or similar event, I'll keep in mind that it might be better to ask for the video files as just files and then handling the posting on my side so as to not expose participants to this risk.

If participants want to ensure their names are linked to the video bits used from their films, they can go through the all the blockhainy-web3-y trouble, if not they can just zip them.

Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video

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post #93

It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…

This is what works for me: I open a new personal account (using a fake name) every few months, when I open the new one I delete the old one. Obviously I don't use Google for anything important e.g. email. Basically, at any given time I'm using a throwaway account. It's like Docker for Google accounts. It's good because I could not care less about losing the account; another welcome side effect is that every few month…

OpSec is hard. I'm not going to risk that Google won't be able to connect the shadow accounts.
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