The problem is that this does not happen often enough to be of any relevance so they simply and literally don't care, even if you are a paying customer. It's a valid reason not to use any Google services anymore, though. That won't harm Google nor will they change anything (the "no relevance" argument) but at least you get to sleep well at nights knowing you'll still have access to your "life" the next morning.
Isn't it just incredibly sad that one of the top 5 companies in our industry has this way of operating? And is it really true that there are not enough engineers and product people reading stories like this and have a bit of that good old "Focus on the user and all else will follow" to make the system more humane?
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Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video
#52I know this isn't going to be a popular suggestion but can we please ban these type of threads from HN? I'm not sure if that's a 'done' thing around here, but they are multiplying in number and really, HN isn't a suitable venue for Google support. For each one of these threads that reach high in the HN index, there are like 10's or 100's more cases - why is one person more special than another? Really, we should just…
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#53But my nightmare in here is that you lose access to your whole Google account and that would devastate me. Not only email access (and thus, access to every service I use because I have my Google account linked to it), but also Google Photos, with memories from the past 15 years with loved ones (even photos of my mom who passed away). And I am sure a lot of other services that I cannot remember now (by the way, imagine you are hired by a company that uses Google Cloud, you couldn't technically work for them?)
Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video
#54The problem is not the content of the video, crypto or not. The problem is not that YT moderates aggressively (it doesn't do enough IMHO) or even how it moderates. The problem is that there is no serious appeals process, and no third party oversight of moderation decisions. This is true for all the big platforms. How do we fix that, IDK, but probably at the government level.
If they had had a message "this is a problem with your account, fix it or else within 3 days we suspend you", that wouldn't have been nice but not completely impossible like the current solution.
How is it not possible for Google to implement that? I understand they also have some very bad cases of spam to deal with, but if I take my account as an example, the 'bad' video was uploaded 4 months ago and has 133 views in total, how can the system not determine there's no harm in leaving it up for another 3 days (in which it probably will get 0 views)?
So sad that the big tech companies can't manage to change from the inside but need to be forced by regulation to do good for their customers.
Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video
#55Why are you using legacy centralized web 2.0 platforms ruled by fiat money? Put your video on IPFS, give it an ens.domain, mint an NFT for it. With an eth filecoin bridge it will fund its own censorship-resistance forever. That tech is great and has obsoleted web 2.0. Don't trust Google, self-govern!
Is this like a parody of the Dropbox thing? Web3 is beyond the hill of magic vs technology for me currently, it's on the tolearn list. Is that actually the alternative to YouTube?
That said, there's other (centralized) video hosting solutions you can go to if you're less technically inclined. Vimeo is a popular choice.
Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video
#56It's terrifying that the punishments are so draconian (because one false move and you lose access to the entire Google account, and possibly become persona non-grata and lose the ability to create another one even in a company context), it's hard to understand what the rules are, the appeals process generally won't help, and even being a paying customer won't save you. It seems like best practice for any professional…
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#57So you're pushing for DeFi and all things decentralized, but whining that the centralized service has enforced its power upon your content about decentralization there? Nice.
What do you mean but whining? I'm not DeFi fan (not by a long shot), but complaining about the practices of centralised services seems exactly in line with what a pro-DeFi person would do. There's no hypocrisy here.
So given that in reality, everything of consequence in the "Decentralized Finance" world still relies on centralized services (YouTube hosts your videos, a lot of cryptocurrency actually held in exchanges, not wallets, etc), charges of hypocrisy may not be entirely without merit.
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#58Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video
#59I know losing a YouTube channel is horrible, especially after you dedicated so much time, effort and money - and for some people it may be a source of income as well. It is totally unfair. But my nightmare in here is that you lose access to your whole Google account and that would devastate me. Not only email access (and thus, access to every service I use because I have my Google account linked to it), but also Goog…
Re: YouTube suspended my account for posting DeFi hackathon video
#60Why are you using legacy centralized web 2.0 platforms ruled by fiat money? Put your video on IPFS, give it an ens.domain, mint an NFT for it. With an eth filecoin bridge it will fund its own censorship-resistance forever. That tech is great and has obsoleted web 2.0. Don't trust Google, self-govern!