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SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by pawelmurias »

mandmandam wrote: post #52
darthrupert wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.

> nobody should consume cannabis daily. Only a sith etc.. You do know there are low THC strains available? And that there are people who self medicate with cannabis for scores of reasons? What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? An increased risk of bronchitis? Some people would consider that a great trade for reduction of chronic pain, nausea, or seizures.

> What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? From observing people who are smoking multiple times per day (even 4+): An extremely happy-go-lucky attitude, often problems with memory and periodical total idiocy (while being baked of their goddam mind).

They also tend to have little enjoyment due to increased tolerance and are mostly addicted (being sober is not comfortable for them).

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Post by kepler1 »

You know, sometimes I wonder if some of the Romans, looking around at their society crumbling in the early ADs, asked themselves "you know, I remember we used to have these things called laws?"

Seems we're tripping over ourselves these days to find every way to defeat the original purpose of the laws that we set up to make society civilized and fair.

And I'm not just talking about weed.

Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by mam4 »

darthrupert wrote: post #43
bryans wrote: post #24

In most recreational states, cannabis is taxed heavily at every step in the supply chain, so the highest quality still ends up being very expensive -- upward of $400/oz. The black market has the exact same quality at the wholesale price, typically 40-60% less than retail, with the added bonus of not having the government involved. For a daily or heavy smoker, a ~50% discount is a massive amount of money.

50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.

Even if i agree to part 2 of your messagr, part 1 shows gow disconnected from people who dont have that much money

Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by bryans »

aww_dang wrote: post #46
dumbfoundded wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally the taxes create operational overhead to stay compliant. Every product follows a chain of custody similar to pharmaceuticals. Even the scales used must be of the same spec used for gold weighing and cost roughly $1,500 each. It's not just the dispensaries but the wholesalers, processors, and cultivators need to buy these scales and register them once a year with the state for $100. Furthermore the batche…

If people can sell pies, vegetables, dairy and sometimes cider at informal farmers markets, cannabis should be the same. Moldy cannabis is self-apparent in most cases. Toxic distilled alcohol isn't. Some claim you can use a flame test to detect poisonous liquor.

Some states did initially allow co-op markets where farmers got to sell directly to consumers, and only needed to test large batches to meet requirements. The prices were very low because there were no extra middlemen to get taxed, and because each farmer was its own vendor, you could buy very large quantities in one location -- and I think the concept eventually got shut down for that reason.

Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by bryans »

mandmandam wrote: post #52
darthrupert wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.

> nobody should consume cannabis daily. Only a sith etc.. You do know there are low THC strains available? And that there are people who self medicate with cannabis for scores of reasons? What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? An increased risk of bronchitis? Some people would consider that a great trade for reduction of chronic pain, nausea, or seizures.

I smoke every day, but I've also come close to dying from it[0] on a number of occasions. There are definitely potential risks, but with that said, I completely agree with your points.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...

Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by staticassertion »

bryans wrote: post #24

In most recreational states, cannabis is taxed heavily at every step in the supply chain, so the highest quality still ends up being very expensive -- upward of $400/oz. The black market has the exact same quality at the wholesale price, typically 40-60% less than retail, with the added bonus of not having the government involved. For a daily or heavy smoker, a ~50% discount is a massive amount of money.

I'd expect Eaze to have a bigger impact than anything else. It's hard to beat a curated experience plus delivery.

Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by [deleted] »

staticassertion wrote: post #66
bryans wrote: post #24

In most recreational states, cannabis is taxed heavily at every step in the supply chain, so the highest quality still ends up being very expensive -- upward of $400/oz. The black market has the exact same quality at the wholesale price, typically 40-60% less than retail, with the added bonus of not having the government involved. For a daily or heavy smoker, a ~50% discount is a massive amount of money.

I'd expect Eaze to have a bigger impact than anything else. It's hard to beat a curated experience plus delivery.

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Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by junon »

darthrupert wrote: post #43
bryans wrote: post #24

In most recreational states, cannabis is taxed heavily at every step in the supply chain, so the highest quality still ends up being very expensive -- upward of $400/oz. The black market has the exact same quality at the wholesale price, typically 40-60% less than retail, with the added bonus of not having the government involved. For a daily or heavy smoker, a ~50% discount is a massive amount of money.

50% is worth the diminshed crime, and nobody should consume cannabis daily.

> nobody should consume cannabis daily

Based on... what? Your opinion? Your parents? Your god? Because it's certainly not based on fact.

Re: SF suspends cannabis tax to help dispensaries compete with drug dealers

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Post by primitivesuave »

I love that these small businesses are keeping more of their hard-earned money, but I don’t really think this will have any noticeable effect on their sales. As someone who exclusively purchases cannabis flower, I will only use the dispensaries when my trusted guy is out, and for only the smallest possible quantity until my guy is back up. A majority of dispensary customers are looking for cannabis-infused beverages, concentrates, and a selection of professionally-packaged products that a street dealer is simply incapable of manufacturing.
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