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Fakelish – Fake English word generator

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Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#61

Speaking of gibberish english: I know this has been on YouTube for 10 years, but there are always newcomers who haven't had their brain melted by it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8

My brain isn’t melted. This could just be some obscure Dutch dialect for all I know.

I'm sure some people don't hear it, like "the dress", but for some of us it sounds like an Uncanny Valley of English: close but not quite, just enough for our brains to trip over / struggle to comprehend b/c it is so close.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#63
The following is the text of a recent HN comment (not my own) on the subject of non-drug highs. As it suggests starting with a nonsense word, the OP fake word generator ought to suit:

> It is really quite easy: have someone you know provide a nonsense word. In needs to have no logical sense or connections to to anything - pure nonsense. Then, with that phrase held in your most present and loudest inner voice you repeat that phrase in your head. Repeat it over an over, forcefully to drive any other thoughts or thought fragments out of your mental conversation(s) (at all mental conversation levels, if you have more than one going at once). After a few minutes of forceful repeating, it echoes on it's own, and a few realization moments later 20-30 minutes have passed and it feels like waking from a refreshing dream. When in the "state", it really can't be described because it is whatever your imagination and recent experiences feedback froth back and forth. It's relaxing and refreshing, and a great way to clear one's head when working on difficult complex mental goals.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#64

Nice idea, naive implementation which leads to the output being unconvincing as hypothetical English words. I had a brief look and it seems to be proportionally selecting and sticking together sequences of letters sampled from English words (lib/word-probability.ts). This doesn't take into account syllable boundaries, the way the English spelling system maps between phones/phonemes and the phonotactic properties of E…

You should check out the VOLT paper, I think it would work well. It's a new technique for splitting up a vocabulary into subwords while minimizing entropy. These subwords could then be mixed and matched, maybe by a neural model, for better results.

Thank you for the reference. To save others a search, I believe this is the paper:

Vocabulary Learning via Optimal Transport for Neural Machine Translation - https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.15671

https://jingjing-nlp.github.io/volt-blog/

https://github.com/Jingjing-NLP/VOLT

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try for -ailm-.

Ailment

As with flailmen, you've put a syllable break (and a morpheme break!) between the L and the M. This will make continuing the sequence into -ailml- impossible, since an English syllable can't start with ml-.

Interestingly, there's nothing wrong in general with starting a syllable with ml-; it's fundamentally the same mouth motion as starting with bl- or pl-, both of which are common in English. But ml- isn't allowed.

This plays into a pet observation of mine, which is that an underappreciated constraint on the space of words that actually exist in a language -- as opposed to the space of words that could conceivably exist -- is that by and large they must descend from older words in an older form of the language, so that even if a word like "plailm" obeys the rules for modern English syllables, it can't exist because its precursor word would have violated the rules for older English sounds. (I don't know if this is actually true as applied to "plailm", but the phenomenon (of possible sounds failing to exist due to their precursors having been impossible) is real.)

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

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Sorry, after a few refreshes not a single word was anything that looked remotely like English. It all looked like complete gibberish or words in another language. Most of them weren’t even pronounceable.

Runinal Worriably Homenite

I like these, especially the last.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#68

Nice idea, naive implementation which leads to the output being unconvincing as hypothetical English words. I had a brief look and it seems to be proportionally selecting and sticking together sequences of letters sampled from English words (lib/word-probability.ts). This doesn't take into account syllable boundaries, the way the English spelling system maps between phones/phonemes and the phonotactic properties of E…

I got "minable" on my first try and found it impressive and surprised that it wasn't a word. After 3 other reloads nothing else came up.

I got "episexic" and, well, I kind of like that one.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ailment

As with flailmen, you've put a syllable break (and a morpheme break!) between the L and the M. This will make continuing the sequence into -ailml- impossible, since an English syllable can't start with ml-. Interestingly, there's nothing wrong in general with starting a syllable with ml-; it's fundamentally the same mouth motion as starting with bl- or pl-, both of which are common in English. But ml- isn't allowed.…

Very good, mlord / mlady ;)

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with flailmen, you've put a syllable break (and a morpheme break!) between the L and the M. This will make continuing the sequence into -ailml- impossible, since an English syllable can't start with ml-. Interestingly, there's nothing wrong in general with starting a syllable with ml-; it's fundamentally the same mouth motion as starting with bl- or pl-, both of which are common in English. But ml- isn't allowed.…

Very good, mlord / mlady ;)

Milord and milady do not involve syllables starting with ml-. They involve a reduced vowel coming between the /m/ and the /l/, making milord two syllables and milady three. They also aren't spelled "mlord" or "mlady"; your options are "milord", "milady", "m'lord", or "m'lady".
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