Good news - you should be using Signal anyway
Except Signal is shit for groups
is it? I found it to be good enough for most purposes. What is shit about it?
WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
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Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#22Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#23I worked at WhatsApp between 2011 and 2019. This FAQ had very specific instructions for how to opt out of sharing that were only available for a limited amount of time. The FAQ serves as documentation of the product and there's no need to keep online specific instructions that can no longer be followed. In order to opt out, you needed to have an existing account and take specific actions around the time you agreed to…
The news here is that you can't choose to not share data with Facebook anymore.
Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#24Good news - you should be using Signal anyway
Signal seems too good to be true. If anything is perfectly private/secure it won't be allowed to exist due to regulations or government agenda(which creates these regulations). Just like any crypto with anonymous protocols never get listed on exchanges.
> If anything is perfectly private/secure it won't be allowed to exist due to regulations.
Why?
I was under the impression that these days the NSA and other government agencies prefer perfect security since if they can crack the security then other governments could too. By forcing imperfect security the US would give up a large part of its advantage.
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#25Old habits and mindsets never seem to change despite corporate pronouncements and PR puff pieces written by stenographers. The regulators (and legislators) are either the biggest dupes, or much more likely in on it. Let’s not forget the FTC hookup for Netflix by Obama and the eventual payout when he left office. Or Ajit Pai who came from Verizon to run the FTC and undid the Obama era changes favorable to Netflix and…
I sometimes wonder whether there is any purpose to it in the long term. If/when Signal becomes big enough to be used by a lot of people, they will want to monetize too and the governments will become interested in monitoring messages there too.
It just feels futile. As long as companies need to turn a profit and governments can surreptitiously surveil their citizens there's no long-term solution. We can move to the next platform until that becomes popular (and hence worth monetizing and surveilling), then the next, repeat.
Its a technical solution to a political problem.
Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#26I worked at WhatsApp between 2011 and 2019. This FAQ had very specific instructions for how to opt out of sharing that were only available for a limited amount of time. The FAQ serves as documentation of the product and there's no need to keep online specific instructions that can no longer be followed. In order to opt out, you needed to have an existing account and take specific actions around the time you agreed to…
I hope the salary was worth it
Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#27I worked at WhatsApp between 2011 and 2019. This FAQ had very specific instructions for how to opt out of sharing that were only available for a limited amount of time. The FAQ serves as documentation of the product and there's no need to keep online specific instructions that can no longer be followed. In order to opt out, you needed to have an existing account and take specific actions around the time you agreed to…
The news here is that you can't choose to not share data with Facebook anymore.
... as of 2018.
Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#28Lots of people dropped WhatsApp soon after FB changed their user agreement.
I migrated to telegram. But not sure if its any more secure.
Re: WhatsApp has removed answer to “how do I choose not to share data with FB”
#29Old habits and mindsets never seem to change despite corporate pronouncements and PR puff pieces written by stenographers. The regulators (and legislators) are either the biggest dupes, or much more likely in on it. Let’s not forget the FTC hookup for Netflix by Obama and the eventual payout when he left office. Or Ajit Pai who came from Verizon to run the FTC and undid the Obama era changes favorable to Netflix and…
Ajit also undid the new tariffs that were about to be implemented for jails and prisons to avoid some inmates paying $50 for a 15 minute call to their family. Fuck Ajit.
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#30Lots of people dropped WhatsApp soon after FB changed their user agreement. I migrated to telegram. But not sure if its any more secure.
At least it's not Facebook.