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Fakelish – Fake English word generator

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Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try for -ailm-.

Flailmen

Flailmen: Awkward males, made uncomfortable and rendered incoherent by the close proximity of a romantic interest. Also, medieval warriors wielding flails.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

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Sorry, after a few refreshes not a single word was anything that looked remotely like English. It all looked like complete gibberish or words in another language. Most of them weren’t even pronounceable.

On my first load, I got "Plailmly", which uses a sequence of consonants that I'm reasonably certain occurs nowhere in the English language.

I think ailml is the offending sequence here. It's pretty difficult to say and doesn't sound like something that you'd find in a native English word.

There's calmly which is similar, to be fair, but there's something about the tongue positions for ailml that I find noticeably more difficult, it's too far forward.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#56

Nice idea, naive implementation which leads to the output being unconvincing as hypothetical English words. I had a brief look and it seems to be proportionally selecting and sticking together sequences of letters sampled from English words (lib/word-probability.ts). This doesn't take into account syllable boundaries, the way the English spelling system maps between phones/phonemes and the phonotactic properties of E…

I got "minable" on my first try and found it impressive and surprised that it wasn't a word. After 3 other reloads nothing else came up.

Similarly, ”shitbin” was the second word on my first try, and I had to internet search to convince myself that it isn’t in fact a word.

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#57

Speaking of gibberish english: I know this has been on YouTube for 10 years, but there are always newcomers who haven't had their brain melted by it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8

Modern version: https://youtu.be/ybcvlxivscw

"English" starts at around 0:48, but the others are also worth a listen!

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#58
So many of the generated names sound like pharmaceutical brands...

Also, if anyone is playing NYTime's spelling bee game, you've probably become pretty familiar with common english three/four letter combos and then iterate/manipulate them to find words. It all about the patterns!

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A letter-by-letter markov chain would lead to similar unconvincing results. As you said, vocal groups matter much more than single letters. If you know anything about korean, they actually group letters into characters that way. If one could build such a markov chain for English it would be very convincing I think.

You're right, I forgot that markov chains are memoryless

I used a letter by letter Markov chain for this: http://password.supply/

The output is definitely not convincing as actual words (but reasonable for somewhat more memorable passwords).

Re: Fakelish – Fake English word generator

#60

Nice idea, naive implementation which leads to the output being unconvincing as hypothetical English words. I had a brief look and it seems to be proportionally selecting and sticking together sequences of letters sampled from English words (lib/word-probability.ts). This doesn't take into account syllable boundaries, the way the English spelling system maps between phones/phonemes and the phonotactic properties of E…

You should check out the VOLT paper, I think it would work well. It's a new technique for splitting up a vocabulary into subwords while minimizing entropy. These subwords could then be mixed and matched, maybe by a neural model, for better results.
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