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Is Web3 Bullshit?

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Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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If I had a fraction of a bitcoin for every recruiter who has contacted me in the last two months with a breathless crypto startup job posting with boatloads of seed capital, I'd be "rich."

If the tech industry bubble pops in the near future, it will be because of crypto.

(EDIT: As a sidenote, it is interesting that when I filed my taxes for 2020 revenue Canada had added a question about cryptocurrency assets.)

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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Crypto fans are always hurling accusations of FOMO on those of us who just "don't get it". But web3 strikes me as those very same people experiencing FOMO because they missed out printing a bunch of money for themselves in the early days of the web by actually providing novel value - which in hindsight now all looks like really obvious low-hanging fruit, hence the FOMO - so they're hoping to "get in on the ground flo…

I think you get it better than they do. The biggest difference I notice is that in the early days of the web, people solved problems they had or saw and benefited from it. Now with crypto, all I see is a solution in search of a problem.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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I have the impression that most comments here are either biased against cryptocurrencies or trying to push for them blindly. That's a bit sad considering we should at least be discussing the technology here. web3 is a marketing brand that defines a future version of web apps where the frontend is a compiled SPA possibly hosted on decentralised platforms (IPFS) and where the backend is a decentralised blockchain (and…

Where does this preoccupation with payments come from all of a sudden? Personally I don't want "payments" implemented in my web browser, and I seriously doubt that that would be in anyone's interest.

Micro payments may prove to be a compelling alternative to. Or at least that is the hope.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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Yes web was decentralised till it became centralised with big tech gatekeepers. AMZN makes more money from sellers fee than AWS now. Thus killing small businesses - the lifeblood of most economies. Link below. It is time to get rid of gatekeepers, toll collector and have control of our data & communities. Web 3 is a way do that and will take about a decade as the infra builds out. So it certainly is BS for big tech l…

Amazon has been fantastic for my small business. The fees aren't too crippling (around 15% of revenue) and FBA is an absolute Godsend for anyone based outside of the US trying to crack into that market (similar for Europe). I could not thank Mr. Bezos more for the opportunities Amazon has given my family. The income from FBA was a major factor in my decision to quit my job back in 2020, and because of that my daughte…

The problem with Amazon is that a) for every story like yours, there are 5 that say the opposite, and b) it's all enabled by abusive labour practices.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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That sounds great if it lowered costs, but it takes gas to run services on blockchains - it’s still “someone else’s computer” that has to be incentivized to do work, whether that’s executing a smart contract or paying to pin files on IPFS. IMO there’s room for small benevolent communities where people choose to share in the cost of infrastructure (e.g. hosting seedboxes in torrenting communities where you are expecte…

I kind of mentioned it already, but apart from payments or other transfer of digital ownership, there shouldn't be much need for on-chain transactions. In some years when, hopefully, L2 technologies have matured and grown to live up to their promise, those won't have to either (there is always the initial on-boarding of course, but credit cards and mobile payments have those too) As for "who's going to run the nodes"…

If by L2 you are referring to proof-of-stake, I don't think that technology can ever be made to work without needing to exist alongside a proof-of-work coin due to the "nothing at stake" issue.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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Let's agree on a definition first: web 3.0 is using blockchain tech to replace current server-side computing (static file hosting, functions/processing, databases, etc) and online centralized services (payments, identity, etc). So, is it bs? No, it is not. If you are a developer, you can go now and build a dapp (a web3 application or distributed app). So far so good, but: A simple dapp will cost cents to host/run (ev…

How does the nail for the web3 hammer look like?

Because every use case I heard so far can already be solved more efficiently without blockchains.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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post #58

I have the impression that most comments here are either biased against cryptocurrencies or trying to push for them blindly. That's a bit sad considering we should at least be discussing the technology here. web3 is a marketing brand that defines a future version of web apps where the frontend is a compiled SPA possibly hosted on decentralised platforms (IPFS) and where the backend is a decentralised blockchain (and…

> where the frontend is a compiled SPA

This is pretty much just the same thing we do today, but wait...

> possibly hosted on decentralised platforms (IPFS)

We can use a filesystem that is extremely slow, and also loses all our files if we stop paying AWS to mirror them in S3!

> the backend is a decentralised blockchain

And we can use a really slow database where each write costs $100s in gas fees!

... see, much better!

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

#248
Yes. Metaverse also.

The phrase "social media" has become passé and even toxic.

The language around BTC & Crypto have political & other baggage.

Web3 is an attempt to re-package the past 10-15 years of web trends in a hip new label that leaves behind the baggage and allows for the appearance of "new stuff happening". But nothing much new is happening.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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One aspect that I strongly dislike about "web3" is that it poisons the discourse with its incentives. I don't believe that every person on Twitter with $BTC in their profile understands or can knowledgeably argue the benefits of Web3, but their crypto holdings make them a hard-lined crypto zealot in the hopes of multiplying few hundred dollars they've put in. It's fairly widely known how laughable it is to look for u…

The thing that cryptocurrencies have really successfully decentralized and democratized is becoming a shareholder — of cryptocurrency schemes. Anyone can buy a share of a coin, and make a profit as long as the amount of fiat currency put into the chain keeps growing. Every new user convinced it's going "to the moon" pays dividends to existing holders. This automatically creates a financial incentive to become an astr…

The thing is , that side of things in practice, isn't really decentralized. Where do you buy and sell those "shares"... exchanges (e.g. binance, coinbase, bitfinex etc), which essentially just replace the centralized stock exchanges and banks of traditional finance.

Whilst it's possible to avoid those, I'd guess it's beyond many participants to do technically, so the exchanges become defacto centralization, and instead of regulated stock exchanges that operate in the same judicial location, in many cases these exchanges explicitly try to avoid regulation or accountability.

Re: Is Web3 Bullshit?

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For awhile I insisted that all cryptocurrencies were bullshit and also Ponzi schemes, but given how many people take pleasure in buying them, selling them, and talking about them, I've come round to viewing them as a kind of in-game currency, with the game being a bit like those role-playing games that you play in your neighborhood while interacting with the real world. Anyone who grew up playing some variation of As…

The ratio of crime to harmless fun does concern me. For example if Monero is 90% ransomware and violent gangs and only 10% innocent gambling then I'd rather not use it.
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