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Re: Ask HN: Are there any 4K “dumb” televisions?

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Post by babypuncher »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #446
danielheath wrote: post #417

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Plex, if you have a spare machine to run it on. Free if the household share a username/password.

Plex also phones home, I thought. I could never understand why anyone uses it. What is wrong with mplayer running purely on a local client?

* Plex has clients for "smart" devices (Apple TV, Roku, smartphones, tablets), so you don't have to use a computer just to watch TV

* Plex tracks what you've watched so you don't have to remember what episode you left off on

* Plex serves up rich metadata when browsing your library

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Post by babypuncher »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #505
kitsunesoba wrote: post #501

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Plex definitely connects to third party servers, primarily for verifying subscription status (some features are tied to a subscription) and to make connecting to your Plex box from outside of your local network easier (no IP addresses or something like dyndns). Kodi I’m not sure about. It was originally XBMC (XBox Media Center) and is open source so even if there’s so phone home element, it can be built without that.…

Why does plex have subscriptions at all? I understand (at least theoretically) that not all software is free, but charging for it the normal way (you pay money and buy a copy that you then use without it phoning home) works perfectly well too. Anyway I had had the impression that Plex also sends at least the metadata of your video library to its home server. I didn't realize Kodi was XBMC or that you could build it y…

Plex pulls the metadata for your library from public sources like thetvdb.com.

The server and clients use plex.com to authenticate users.

There are alternatives like Jelly Fin that should better alleviate your concerns.

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Post by babypuncher »

amelius wrote: post #375
hrrsn wrote: post #343

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Sadly - there's basically no hardware support for this. Dead in the water.

That's what large TV manufacturers want you to believe ;)

You got any evidence to back this up? Hardware that supports this feature is basically nonexistent.

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Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

basch wrote: post #189
ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #92

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Why connect them in the first place?

Firmware updates, changes to post processing, motion processing, fald backlighting software, enhanced gaming features.

USB does that too

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Post by basch »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #514
basch wrote: post #189

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Firmware updates, changes to post processing, motion processing, fald backlighting software, enhanced gaming features.

USB does that too

The question was "why connect?" and I gave a reason why you might connect despite not using the smarts.

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Post by alsetmusic »

joney_baloney wrote: post #439
duderific wrote: post #426

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AppleTV is not analogous to a Roku stick however, unless I'm misunderstanding. It is an app that already requires a connection to Wifi from the TV; Roku stick is what provides this connection. Additionally, AppleTV does not support Netflix or Disney+ among others. [1] [1] https://9to5mac.com/2021/06/29/apple-tv-channels-services/

Pedantic Post Alert, but there's a few different products called "Apple TV". There's the hardware box called Apple TV that comes with a remote and plugs into the HDMI on your TV. That IS an alternative to Roku. Then there's the Apple TV app, which runs on the Apple TV box. This can integrate with some other streaming services and show you their content in the app. Not Netflix or HBO (or some others) though. And final…

> It's all named very well and clear.

I really enjoyed this.

Apple’s handling of the Apple TV product names are baffling to me, given their once brilliant marketing department.

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Post by hrrsn »

amelius wrote: post #375
hrrsn wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly - there's basically no hardware support for this. Dead in the water.

That's what large TV manufacturers want you to believe ;)

The same TV manufacturers that are still shipping 10/100 Ethernet ports on TVs in 2021?
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