If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
U.S. State Department phones hacked with Israeli company spyware
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#402If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests, namely it is by the Suez canal one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth. One could argue that there is a lot of political support for Israel in the US but it really comes down to geopolitical interest. The others, Russia is a US adversary as it seeks to challenge the US order without Russia in it. Iran is a geopolitical adversary, simply because Saudi Arabia is a U…
> Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests The US is an Israeli ally that serves Israel’s interests. Our federal intelligence (CIA) and law enforcement agencies (FBI) are subservient to Mossad. The FBI scooped a foreign intelligence operation setup ahead of time to film and celebrate 9/11 and they all walked. The CIA was completely unable to stop foreign assets from fabricating evidence for the Iraq war, ser…
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#404If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
However the more likely thing is they would keep it on the phone and feed false intel.
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#405Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests, namely it is by the Suez canal one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth. One could argue that there is a lot of political support for Israel in the US but it really comes down to geopolitical interest. The others, Russia is a US adversary as it seeks to challenge the US order without Russia in it. Iran is a geopolitical adversary, simply because Saudi Arabia is a U…
> Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests The US is an Israeli ally that serves Israel’s interests. Our federal intelligence (CIA) and law enforcement agencies (FBI) are subservient to Mossad. The FBI scooped a foreign intelligence operation setup ahead of time to film and celebrate 9/11 and they all walked. The CIA was completely unable to stop foreign assets from fabricating evidence for the Iraq war, ser…
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#406Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone has dirty laundry they would prefer not be aired, and if they don't then their friends, family, or partners do. I don't think we want to live in a world where absolute moral purity (as determined by the most vocal, biased critics of a given person) is required to hold public office.
>I don't think we want to live in a world where absolute moral purity (as determined by the most vocal, biased critics of a given person) is required to hold public office. Don't worry, you live in a world where a man with a well documented decades-long laundry list of scandals and faux-pas can brag on tape about how he can get away with molesting young women because of how rich he is and still get elected President.…
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#407Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests, namely it is by the Suez canal one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth. One could argue that there is a lot of political support for Israel in the US but it really comes down to geopolitical interest. The others, Russia is a US adversary as it seeks to challenge the US order without Russia in it. Iran is a geopolitical adversary, simply because Saudi Arabia is a U…
> Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests The US is an Israeli ally that serves Israel’s interests. Our federal intelligence (CIA) and law enforcement agencies (FBI) are subservient to Mossad. The FBI scooped a foreign intelligence operation setup ahead of time to film and celebrate 9/11 and they all walked. The CIA was completely unable to stop foreign assets from fabricating evidence for the Iraq war, ser…
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#408Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's difficult, you have to break down those brotherhoods who will fight to death to be "independent". And then you have to find a way to prevent them from spawning again. I don't have any idea how to do it properly.
I'd expect if we lived in the sort of society that would execute the head of the NSA for treason or something similar when the Snowden revelations came out, it would have societally beneficial chilling effect on intelligence organization brazenness. Unfortunately, it seems intelligence is mostly immune from liability, and lack of consequences lets the rot fester.
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And the European allies spy on the USA, rinse and repeat.
I don’t think so. If they do, it is either a) not nearly on they same scale, or they b) are way more competent about it and less likely to get caught. Given the general incompetence of governments in general (Europe is no exception) I doubt it is (b).
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> Well Israel is a US ally that serves US interests, namely it is by the Suez canal one of the busiest shipping lanes on earth. One could argue that there is a lot of political support for Israel in the US but it really comes down to geopolitical interest. If Sisi blows up Suez, USA is much more better off! =D And if he blows up Tiran, even better — they will have to buy US oil too. That's more "geopolitical" for ya
>Is Sisi blows up Suez, USA is much more better off! Don't think so. Europe (and Nato/USA by extension) would have a very big problem.