It was always only a matter of time untill this snakes starts eating itself.
News talking heads should be interviewing thousands of experts who can say "I told you so" and asking some tough questions of our joker officials.
U.S. State Department phones hacked with Israeli company spyware
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#342If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
Can you explain why that is for us who aren’t well versed in geopolitical issues.
Israel is an ally of the United States.
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#343If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
Can you explain why that is for us who aren’t well versed in geopolitical issues.
Israel is a US ally
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#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone has dirty laundry they would prefer not be aired, and if they don't then their friends, family, or partners do. I don't think we want to live in a world where absolute moral purity (as determined by the most vocal, biased critics of a given person) is required to hold public office.
>I don't think we want to live in a world where absolute moral purity (as determined by the most vocal, biased critics of a given person) is required to hold public office. Don't worry, you live in a world where a man with a well documented decades-long laundry list of scandals and faux-pas can brag on tape about how he can get away with molesting young women because of how rich he is and still get elected President.…
I don't think "eponymous" is the word you meant there.
Re: U.S. State Department phones hacked with Israeli company spyware
#345If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
Can you explain why that is for us who aren’t well versed in geopolitical issues.
Israel is a third rail in US politics.
One significant faction of the GOP is millenarian evangelical Christians who (a) believe the Israeli state is a necessary precursor to armageddon and (b) have spent the past 2 decades trying to conflate “Muslim” with “terrorist”.
The Democratic party includes as part of its coalition many American Jews who, despite frustration with the human rights abuses of the Israeli government, feel a strong connection with Israel as a symbolic homeland and are worried that criticism of Israel will lead to broader antisemitism.
The US intelligence/defense establishment has strong ties to Israel, the US shares intelligence with Israel, and US firms make a lot of money selling weapons to Israel (a substantial part bought with US tax money). Israel has been the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid since World War II.
Re: U.S. State Department phones hacked with Israeli company spyware
#346If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
False. USA doesn't take cyber attacks from Russia and China seriously at all aside from lip service. In all reality USA should be considered in an actual state of war with these countries based on their previous actions.
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#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US spies on its European allies all the time, and I'm sure they spy on Israel too, so that's not super surprising. As for the USS Liberty, some do argue that it was intentional, but both the Israelis and Americans ended up agreeing that it was a mistake. The US is no stranger to such mistakes either, even more egregious ones like when they killed close to 300 civilians aboard a regular passenger flight following…
They officially decided it was a mistake, as it did neither government any good to officially announce that it was intentional. But the sailors that were on the ship say otherwise.
> They officially decided it was a mistake, as it did neither government any good to officially announce that it was intentional. But the sailors that were on the ship say otherwise.
How would the sailors on the ship being attacked be able to know anything like that (e.g. know if the Israeli pilots thought they were attacking an Egyptian ship or an American one)?
Re: U.S. State Department phones hacked with Israeli company spyware
#348If this was a Russian/Iranian/Chinese company, we'd already have a news conference by the US DoS, declaring sanctions, freezing assets, and calling for an international coalition to contain the rogue state that's threatening world peace. But this is a Israeli company, so it's just another "scandal" that scrolls trough the news feed, it will be forgotten by next week, to be completely memory holed by next year.
Can you explain why that is for us who aren’t well versed in geopolitical issues.
Look up which 2 countries consistently vote to continue enforcing Cold War era sanctions on Cuba.
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#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you explain why that is for us who aren’t well versed in geopolitical issues.
Israel is a third rail in US politics. One significant faction of the GOP is millenarian evangelical Christians who (a) believe the Israeli state is a necessary precursor to armageddon and (b) have spent the past 2 decades trying to conflate “Muslim” with “terrorist”. The Democratic party includes as part of its coalition many American Jews who, despite frustration with the human rights abuses of the Israeli governme…
wow, even if you are a proud tinfoil hat wearer you should learn a way to explain your positions in a factual provable way without any attempts to read anyone's minds or guess anyone's motivations
that would be much more effective
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#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you explain why that is for us who aren’t well versed in geopolitical issues.
Israel is a third rail in US politics. One significant faction of the GOP is millenarian evangelical Christians who (a) believe the Israeli state is a necessary precursor to armageddon and (b) have spent the past 2 decades trying to conflate “Muslim” with “terrorist”. The Democratic party includes as part of its coalition many American Jews who, despite frustration with the human rights abuses of the Israeli governme…
this angle seems really out dated. the us alliance with israel is not about religious reasons.
israel is the one democratic state in a region that mostly has our enemies. israel is a military power. we have strategic interests in maintaining the middle east political bloc
imagine if this headline read france instead. we would react similarly