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Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

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Post by jazzyjackson »

AndrewSwift wrote: post #112
pgcj_poster wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only exceptions I know of are Illustrator and Inkscape. Aren't those the two most common vector graphics programs?

Illustrator is, but I don't think Inkscape is. I haven't been able to find any real information about Inkscape adoption rates, but I participate in several vector forums and Inkscape only ever comes up in terms of amateur illustration. I would love to be wrong about this. Figma and Adobe Xd are pretty popular, as is Affinity Designer. Microsoft Visio is popular in certain contexts, and InVision Studio is also popular…

Just an anecdatum, at UIUC's fab lab we taught Inkscape to all ages, it was really useful to import an image, trace bitmap to an SVG, and send the SVG to vinyl cutters, laser cutters, 3d printers... I think we were not the only fablab to do this, and hopefully it is popular in other educational circles.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

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Post by AndrewSwift »

erinaceousjones wrote: post #104
AndrewSwift wrote: post #60

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The page adapts to the screen. It means making different versions for different types of screens. But, the development process is so abbreviated that it takes way less time to make a mobile & desktop version than it would take to make the equivalent responsive version. Also many (most?) serious sites already develop separately for different platforms. So far, in 5 years I've been working on this, I've not had a singl…

Can I chime in as a regular user, even though I'm a developer? I looked at the website on my big 1440p monitor. It looked cool. I resized the window to a still reasonable size (1280-ish width). Now some of the text is waay too small for me to read. 1366x768 is a still pretty common laptop resolution..! I can't zoom in the text like on a regular page, it just makes the whole thing bigger, like an image. I also can't u…

I really appreciate your comment, and I just want to reassure you that we take accessibility seriously.

In this case, we had to start somewhere, and we're excited to show it off. But it obviously needs work to be really accessible.

Svija might never be appropriate for content-oriented websites, which may be most of them. It was quite difficult to create the WTF page in Illustrator — it's not made for that kind of thing.

I am absolutely planning to build a tool, where, as you say "editor + format where responsiveness and fluidity were baked right into the authoring flow, like at the layer / object-group level".

As soon as we can get some funding it's off to the races!

Thanks again, you added an important point of view to the comments.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

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Post by xupybd »

AndrewSwift wrote: post #112
pgcj_poster wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only exceptions I know of are Illustrator and Inkscape. Aren't those the two most common vector graphics programs?

Illustrator is, but I don't think Inkscape is. I haven't been able to find any real information about Inkscape adoption rates, but I participate in several vector forums and Inkscape only ever comes up in terms of amateur illustration. I would love to be wrong about this. Figma and Adobe Xd are pretty popular, as is Affinity Designer. Microsoft Visio is popular in certain contexts, and InVision Studio is also popular…

Inkscape and gimp are the only tools I use for image editing. I'm a developer working in B2B manufacturing so the aesthetics of my work don't really matter.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

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Post by andrecarini »

AndrewSwift wrote: post #2

I was getting really frustrated with CSS and HTML (I was originally a print designer), so built a tool for building websites using only SVG content. It's essentially a website builder that uses Adobe Illustrator for creating pages. The results so far have been really promising: - building websites is extremely rapid - very little debugging or verification is needed - it's easy to create beautiful content Techniques t…

Congratulations for launching a new idea! There are plenty of kinks to be ironed out but it looks promising.

A couple of problems on my end (Firefox on Android, low-end device): selecting text is very wonky, noticeable stutter when scrolling, first load of the page had really small text (on a refresh it showed me a proper mobile version).

If I may ask, what's the biggest motivation? The easy of use of authoring through Illustrator or having a more distinct graphic design? (the curves, funny text wrapping, et cetera)

Edit: also an issue in Firefox on Windows 10: page width is larger than the visible screen.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

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Post by AndrewSwift »

danielvaughn wrote: post #115
AndrewSwift wrote: post #2

I was getting really frustrated with CSS and HTML (I was originally a print designer), so built a tool for building websites using only SVG content. It's essentially a website builder that uses Adobe Illustrator for creating pages. The results so far have been really promising: - building websites is extremely rapid - very little debugging or verification is needed - it's easy to create beautiful content Techniques t…

Neat idea; I'm working on a project in a similar space but taking a very different approach. One question - why AI and not Figma?

Figma doesn't export to SVG with linked images and fonts, so it can't be used to create a web page.

That was pretty much the first thing I thought of when I started the project.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

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Post by gorgoiler »

cunthorpe wrote: post #73

Your site is laggy, zero accessibility, microscopic text unless your window is large enough, does not support anything you'd expect from a regular website. Just ship a PDF already. The web is not paper, don't design for it as if it as. Oh, and this little page weighs 4.5MB

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