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Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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I'm not a chess expert, so feel like I must be missing something. In the last move Black's king isn't in check? Was the loss due to time?

The player with the black pieces, Ian Nepomniachtchi, resigned because he saw his position was lost

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

#34

I don't know much about chess but Magnus throwing away his queen like that (traded his queen + rook for two rooks), was that a common thing to do? Looked outrageous to me but what do I know.

It looks like he traded just his Queen for two rooks.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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Vishy Sir during the end game commentary said that the engines say it’ll be a draw. Where/which move did Ian make the mistake? Anyways, hats off to everyone involved. Magnus, Ian, commenters, and the chess twitterati. What a game! ~8hrs!!!

The game was drawn for about 30 moves but only Magnus had winning chances with piece overload. Ian had to play very precisely to preserve the draw, and he didn't, because Magnus is elite in exactly these situations.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

#36

So now Carlsen is heavily encouraged to play for a draw in the next 8 games?

Yes, but also keep in mind Ian has a lot of agency. Throughout the first 6 games, he has had moments to make the games more chaotic, increasing the chances of one side having an advantage, and thus far he has almost always played calmer, less chaotic moves.

Now he will likely have to change tactics and enter into more aggressive and risky ideas. It should increase the odds of a decisive result one way or the other going forward, regardless of whether Magnus is "playing for a draw" or not.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

#37

I'm not a chess expert, so feel like I must be missing something. In the last move Black's king isn't in check? Was the loss due to time?

The player with the black pieces, Ian Nepomniachtchi, resigned because he saw his position was lost

Ah! Thanks a bunch for clearing that up.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

#38

Bit of a spoiler :( I prefer to watch analysis of games from YouTubers like Agadmator or Jerry from Chessnetwork and discover who the winner was by watching the game. I wonder if these long games are not particularly helpful. Most chess final games end in draws as players are reluctant to create an imbalance and instead play it safe. There tends to be more exciting games played in games with a shorter time limit. I'm…

This game is a counter-example of a long boring game. It was a long exciting game.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lots of games at this level result in draws, this was a win.

I wonder if this is a limitation on how humans conceptualize Chess. Do games played with computers either vs human or another computer frequently end in draws? If not, maybe there is some insight to be gained to raise high level play even more.

In general as skill increases (assuming the competitors are evenly matched), so does draw rate. Human grandmasters draw much more often than human beginners, and engines draw even more than human GMs.

This is one of the intuitive reasons for hypothesizing that chess is drawn with perfect play, even though we can’t prove it.

Re: Magnus Carlsen wins longest world chess championship game of all time

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post #28
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was an absolutely incredible match to watch live. Historical. My jaw dropped when Magnus ignored his rook being attacked at the end in favor of the potential fork with his knight. It is ultimately what led to the sure win.

That specific moment is actually pretty basic. You're right that it was a great match to watch though.

In hindsight, yes, it's basic for sure. But in the heat of the moment after 7 hours of thinking about nothing but chess, Ian obviously missed the potential fork and was visibly surprised that Magnus left his rook to be attacked.
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