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Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#91

First of all, neat concept. Small point, on desktop I have a horizontal scroll bar for what appears to be intended as a full width site, which is always a bit of a pet peeve. I understand it's a technology demonstration, I'm struggling to decouple the clash with my aesthetic sense from the technology/framework. There are so many new UI elements (stuff floating, expanding, appearing on hover) that it really puts me of…

So far it's been mainly small businesses who just want to put up a cheap website quickly. I can turn a PDF flyer into a website in a couple of hours, and that's been really popular. It's so fast to put up a site that it would be good for events, like album release parties, etc. I'm hoping to find a company that would really like to explore the potential — with a good team we could do some amazing stuff. The long term…

I wish you the very best. This has potential to fill in the long standing gap of designs to implementations flash used to fill.

I'm assuming it's closed source to respect your business, but do you keep any kind of blog or progress updates online?

Any chances of open sourcing in the future? :)

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#92

> Virtually all website builders include options to create responsive websites. However, in most cases, developers have used these options to create two versions: a desktop version and a mobile version. Various elements may also appear or be displaced depending on the exact screen dimensions. > Svija is intended for websites where the content creator wishes to have complete control over the final page. Therefore, a s…

I will change the text.

I have built many many HTML sites, but not many in a team context, so it's true that I lack relevant experience.

In my own experience, what ends up happening is that there are lots of situations where there's double content — on desktop show this block, on mobile show this other block.

But that's not the same as a whole duplicate website.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#93

> Virtually all website builders include options to create responsive websites. However, in most cases, developers have used these options to create two versions: a desktop version and a mobile version. Various elements may also appear or be displaced depending on the exact screen dimensions. > Svija is intended for websites where the content creator wishes to have complete control over the final page. Therefore, a s…

To me it sounds like the author has nearly-zero experience in web development and thus prefers publishing websites straight out of Illustrator.

I have been building websites professionally since 1995, including ASP, Cold Fusion, PHP, Perl, lots of other stuff.

But, it's true that I don't have much recent experience outside of Wordpress, and I have not had the benefit of working in large teams to learn best practices.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#94
post #84

> Virtually all website builders include options to create responsive websites. However, in most cases, developers have used these options to create two versions: a desktop version and a mobile version. Various elements may also appear or be displaced depending on the exact screen dimensions. > Svija is intended for websites where the content creator wishes to have complete control over the final page. Therefore, a s…

Yeah, all the sites I work on are responsive. I wonder if there's some way to make this approach responsive, even if just using breakpoints (vs serving a completely different site requiring a pageload). Doesn't seem like it, but I haven't thought about it much.

That is definitely the goal long-term, but I don't think it will be possible with Illustrator.

Right now this project is a proof of concept: see, by doing real design we can make nice sites, very quickly.

I'm trying to get funding to create a new set of tools based around this kind of workflow.

Re-introducing breakpoints and some level of content reflowing is certainly going to be a part of it (I believe I mentioned it in the WTF page somewhere).

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#95

Your site is laggy, zero accessibility, microscopic text unless your window is large enough, does not support anything you'd expect from a regular website. Just ship a PDF already. The web is not paper, don't design for it as if it as. Oh, and this little page weighs 4.5MB

Your approach is incredibly out of line. This is a proof of concept designed by one person. It's an idea, and an interesting one. Why do you feel the need to be so negative?

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#96

I would love an SVG editor browser plug-in that also contains authentication. When you are on a page you're authorized to edit, a browser button shows that you can modify the page. It then works with a protocol, with implementation examples in different languages, to create/remove/hot update SVG files on any subscribed servers. The authentication can further allow viewing of content on those servers as well. Any smal…

netlify jamspell almost has this it a builtin CMS js that talks directly to git hosts.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#97

Your site is laggy, zero accessibility, microscopic text unless your window is large enough, does not support anything you'd expect from a regular website. Just ship a PDF already. The web is not paper, don't design for it as if it as. Oh, and this little page weighs 4.5MB

It's a proof of concept, but I think it has potential so it's worth exploring. > The web is not paper, don't design for it as if it as. People have said that for literally everything we have on the web now, starting with "the web is only for text and hyperlinks"

> it's worth exploring

Hard disagree.

> People have said that for literally everything we have on the web now

What I meant is that here the intent is to design something once and display it in the browser as if it was an image (or printed media), i.e. without filling the window properly.

This is 100% like displaying a PDF in a browser and it does not belong in one.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#98

I was getting really frustrated with CSS and HTML (I was originally a print designer), so built a tool for building websites using only SVG content. It's essentially a website builder that uses Adobe Illustrator for creating pages. The results so far have been really promising: - building websites is extremely rapid - very little debugging or verification is needed - it's easy to create beautiful content Techniques t…

For what it's worth, Xara (xara.com) offers SVG output. I wonder if it could work with your setup?

They also have their own integrated web site builder as well.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#99

Your site is laggy, zero accessibility, microscopic text unless your window is large enough, does not support anything you'd expect from a regular website. Just ship a PDF already. The web is not paper, don't design for it as if it as. Oh, and this little page weighs 4.5MB

Your approach is incredibly out of line. This is a proof of concept designed by one person. It's an idea, and an interesting one. Why do you feel the need to be so negative?

> This is a proof of concept

If it was a proof of concept, fine, but it's not, the author intends to develop this further and is accepting signups. I do not want this web. Just publish PDFs if you want to design fixed media.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#100
post #9

I was getting really frustrated with CSS and HTML (I was originally a print designer), so built a tool for building websites using only SVG content. It's essentially a website builder that uses Adobe Illustrator for creating pages. The results so far have been really promising: - building websites is extremely rapid - very little debugging or verification is needed - it's easy to create beautiful content Techniques t…

What about SEO, a11y, i18n?

Chrome tried to auto-translate their example page which is in French, and failed completely.
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