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Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#71
post #65

Really neat idea, but comparing this to wordpress seems completely wrong.

I take your point.

I've been having a lot of difficulty with messaging — the basic benefits are that it's super fast, and you can do stuff graphically that's just impossible otherwise — but I haven't found a good way to communicate that.

I won't put it in the next version of the site.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#72
> Virtually all website builders include options to create responsive websites. However, in most cases, developers have used these options to create two versions: a desktop version and a mobile version. Various elements may also appear or be displaced depending on the exact screen dimensions.

> Svija is intended for websites where the content creator wishes to have complete control over the final page. Therefore, a separate, fixed version of each page is created for each version of the website. In most cases this means a desktop version and a mobile version.

> Although it may seem like a sacrifice to create separate versions for different platforms, [...]

This is mostly* all well and good, but should really be a front-and-centre caveat on the homepage for people considering this approach (I took this quote from https://svija.love/en/wtf ).

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*However:

> [...] the reality is that most companies who care about providing a strong mobile experience already construct separate mobile websites

This is absolutely not even in the slightest bit true. It's true that most large companies (e.g. FAANG, etc.) do this, but saying "most companies" here is outrageous.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#73
Your site is laggy, zero accessibility, microscopic text unless your window is large enough, does not support anything you'd expect from a regular website. Just ship a PDF already.

The web is not paper, don't design for it as if it as.

Oh, and this little page weighs 4.5MB

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#74
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about SEO, a11y, i18n?

For internationalization, it's built to handle different languages already. There is a setting for each page for Google and Accessibility where one can include HTML text for those reasons. It's a priority for me to write a script to create an accessible/searchable version automatically. Long-term, the goal is to create a design program that creates hybrid SVG/HTML pages that are indexable and screen-readable by defau…

Okay sounds nice

good luck with the funding!

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#75

> Virtually all website builders include options to create responsive websites. However, in most cases, developers have used these options to create two versions: a desktop version and a mobile version. Various elements may also appear or be displaced depending on the exact screen dimensions. > Svija is intended for websites where the content creator wishes to have complete control over the final page. Therefore, a s…

To me it sounds like the author has nearly-zero experience in web development and thus prefers publishing websites straight out of Illustrator.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#76
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Macromedia Flash era was the best for authoring IMO. But I was just a hobbyist, didn't use it professionally.

I loved Flash, and I think that SVG, if I can create proper tools, has the potential to be as good and maybe to avoid some of the drawbacks. In fact, I wrote Svija because I took a sabbatical from web design. When I came back, Flash was gone and I just couldn't stomach the idea of twenty years of HTML and CSS. So, SVG.

The problem with SVG is that it performs terribly especially when compared with Flash. This site is relatively small and it's super slow on an i9

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#77

Is the tool can create dynamic websites with proper responsiveness to each devices?

The page adapts to the screen. It means making different versions for different types of screens. But, the development process is so abbreviated that it takes way less time to make a mobile & desktop version than it would take to make the equivalent responsive version. Also many (most?) serious sites already develop separately for different platforms. So far, in 5 years I've been working on this, I've not had a singl…

Kids can't explain their emotions. Non-developers can't tell what's wrong with websites.

Just because they don't complain about something specifically, it doesn't mean that they don't feel discomfort.

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#79
post #22

The page looks cool, but I left immediately once the music started playing. There's a reason most websites stopped doing this.

Yeah auto-music is bad. Sound effects are hard to do too, although when done well they can work (at least for me). Example of a site with sound effects that isn't overwhelming: https://www.joshwcomeau.com/

Thanks for sharing. I only got a sound effect when turning the sound off, but didn't find any others?

Re: Show HN: A tool to build real websites built exclusively in SVG

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow! this is amazing! How is responsiveness of the sites impacted by this?

It's very responsive, like literally shrinking the contents to fit the width. Like when iPhone was first introduced and you open websites using its browser.

That’s the exact opposite of responsive, as originally coined and commonly used. Even when just responding to screen size, reflowing content so it’s legible and usable on the device is a reasonable low bar.
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