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Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by heyoni »

amarok1412 wrote: post #18
heyoni wrote: post #16

Am I reading that correctly or is it saying you can unmute people on the call? That should never be able to happen. A moderator should be able to mute people but never unmute them.

There is two level of muted. local mute and moderator mute. If somebody is muted locally it can't be unmuted

That's clever but maybe too clever? I guess it could work for users who dialed in if maybe there was voice feedback to say "you are muted" or "you are unmuted". I'm not sure I have a great solution for it but it sounds like it could lead to users thinking they're muted and continuing on in a private conversation.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by therealidiot »

unixhero wrote: post #14
hulitu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is a usability disaster. I have to restart it a couple of times a day because it will not show the people list when i press the chat button. Aparently i shall not use a laptop screen to access Teams.

Nah. It isn't. We use it with 5000 users. Stable stuff. Productive. EDIT: Not trolling. I just care about having functionality that works, not necessarily speed.

Well I use it daily and I can't even scroll up through chat history without it getting totally janky. The search basically doesn't work, I routinely have to restart it and often text shortcuts (like Ctrl+A to select all) just stop working completely.

It's not stable at all. Audio calls are generally okay, but often screen sharing just doesn't seem to come through either.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by amarok1412 »

heyoni wrote: post #21
amarok1412 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is two level of muted. local mute and moderator mute. If somebody is muted locally it can't be unmuted

That's clever but maybe too clever? I guess it could work for users who dialed in if maybe there was voice feedback to say "you are muted" or "you are unmuted". I'm not sure I have a great solution for it but it sounds like it could lead to users thinking they're muted and continuing on in a private conversation.

there is a label shown and a red icon on the participant with the mic crossed

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by heyoni »

amarok1412 wrote: post #23
heyoni wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's clever but maybe too clever? I guess it could work for users who dialed in if maybe there was voice feedback to say "you are muted" or "you are unmuted". I'm not sure I have a great solution for it but it sounds like it could lead to users thinking they're muted and continuing on in a private conversation.

there is a label shown and a red icon on the participant with the mic crossed

Sure, but if I see that and start a conversation with my wife or I don't know, turn on the news and someone unmutes me, and I'm walking around the house with headphones on then I wouldn't see that.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by bandali »

heyoni wrote: post #24
amarok1412 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is a label shown and a red icon on the participant with the mic crossed

Sure, but if I see that and start a conversation with my wife or I don't know, turn on the news and someone unmutes me, and I'm walking around the house with headphones on then I wouldn't see that.

The moderator and local mute/unmute are separate. If you mute yourself locally, no one else can unmute you. Similarly, if a moderator mutes you, you locally unmuting yourself wouldn't override that either.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by hulitu »

unixhero wrote: post #14
hulitu wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is a usability disaster. I have to restart it a couple of times a day because it will not show the people list when i press the chat button. Aparently i shall not use a laptop screen to access Teams.

Nah. It isn't. We use it with 5000 users. Stable stuff. Productive. EDIT: Not trolling. I just care about having functionality that works, not necessarily speed.

Yes, very productive. My favourite is when i'm in a meeting and somebody is sharing his screen. MS thought is a good idea to throw a toolbar at the top of the screen and some meeting participants icons (big) on the right. This eats around 33% of screen space (i'm being generous here). To be able to see something i need to go in the menu and select full screen. This will make some space on top. Now i need also to go in the menu and select focus and now i have an image which is approx 85% of the screen. The issue is that sometimes the lower part of this image is cropped with no possibility to scroll (scrollbars are so last centuury). Of course i can scale the image till it fits the screen (ehich will scale also the programm) but then it is not readable anymore. I guess some things are just hard.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by a2tech »

amarok1412 wrote: post #18
heyoni wrote: post #16

Am I reading that correctly or is it saying you can unmute people on the call? That should never be able to happen. A moderator should be able to mute people but never unmute them.

There is two level of muted. local mute and moderator mute. If somebody is muted locally it can't be unmuted

Thats a great feature and something I've wished for constantly as someone who often moderates zoom meetings

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by rexreed »

I'm looking for some video of example conferences to see what the quality and experience is like. Curiously hard to find something on YouTube with people demoing their Jami video conferences.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by dalmo3 »

Jami is great. You can create users in seconds, have multiple users active simultaneously in the same client, make them call each other and have a big video conference with all your alter egos. 10/10 if you don't have friends.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Post by simtel20 »

unixhero wrote: post #6
messo wrote: post #2

Jami has improved alot the last few years, and now I do also use it for my business SIP account. I will test out the new conferencing features with family soon, Zoom and Skype has never worked well for us.

MS Teams is the best way. Worth the dollars.

Have they fixed the problem where if you have only a few participants, and one is on a connection that is I a separate region from the others, that participant will show the symptoms of the queue they are on being stuffed instead of flushed, and e.g have audio and video freezes that never catch up, and not be able to see screen shares even when video is off?

This was an issue for much of last year. In larger calls this didn't happen, but it made teams a painful waste of time and energy for actual team communication, rather than big announcements. Hangouts/meet and zoom both work fine in the situations I'm thinking of.

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