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Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Jami has improved alot the last few years, and now I do also use it for my business SIP account. I will test out the new conferencing features with family soon, Zoom and Skype has never worked well for us.

MS Teams is the best way. Worth the dollars.

Teams is a usability disaster. I have to restart it a couple of times a day because it will not show the people list when i press the chat button. Aparently i shall not use a laptop screen to access Teams.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Anyone have some thoughts on Jami vs Jitsi? They're both pretty robust software at this point but there's not enough information out there on the edges of each relative to the other.

Jami has native GTK/QT clients in my distro's (Arch) official repositories. Jitsi has an Electron desktop application that exists in the community-maintained repository (AUR). I haven't used either of them and my experience with Jitsi has been solely limited to the browser client. I'm going to try them now.

Same here -- I use Jitsi to have meetings with friends sometimes (fun fact you can just go to https://meet.jit.si/ random string here>), and the web app has gotten a lot better over the years (it was never "bad" IMO).

I am not sold on the necessity of GTK/QT clients over Electron applications -- I think the development/packaging ease of Electron is exactly why it's where it is today and what works for users generally is not wins so I view it with dispassion. Doesn't matter how much better GTK/QT is (they can't be that good, devs are choosing to "shoot themselves in the foot" with Electron just over there!). Also the nice thing about web is that phones will at least have a chance (even if overheating during the call).

I was more wondering about what it took to run -- Jitsi's server requirements always seemed a bit too heavy weight -- it requires like 4 things to run. That said, I just took another look at the documentation[0] and it's pretty well written... Maybe it's time to roll my sleeves up.

[EDIT] Did not know Etherpad[1] (one of the things that jitsi wants you to host along with it) has video capabilities...

We are really spoiled for good F/OSS software these days -- it's insane how much good software there is out there now.

[0]: https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/devops-guide/devops-gu...

[1]: https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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post #11
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MS Teams is the best way. Worth the dollars.

Teams is a usability disaster. I have to restart it a couple of times a day because it will not show the people list when i press the chat button. Aparently i shall not use a laptop screen to access Teams.

Nah. It isn't. We use it with 5000 users. Stable stuff. Productive.

EDIT: Not trolling. I just care about having functionality that works, not necessarily speed.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is a usability disaster. I have to restart it a couple of times a day because it will not show the people list when i press the chat button. Aparently i shall not use a laptop screen to access Teams.

Nah. It isn't. We use it with 5000 users. Stable stuff. Productive. EDIT: Not trolling. I just care about having functionality that works, not necessarily speed.

This is 100% trolling, right? Teams is so painfully slow and inefficient compared to almost everything out there.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Am I reading that correctly or is it saying you can unmute people on the call? That should never be able to happen. A moderator should be able to mute people but never unmute them.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Am I reading that correctly or is it saying you can unmute people on the call? That should never be able to happen. A moderator should be able to mute people but never unmute them.

I'm torn on this one. It is especially an issue when people join via phone they may not even know how to unmute themselves if e.g., the moderator had to mute them because of some background noise.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Am I reading that correctly or is it saying you can unmute people on the call? That should never be able to happen. A moderator should be able to mute people but never unmute them.

There is two level of muted. local mute and moderator mute. If somebody is muted locally it can't be unmuted

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Jami has improved alot the last few years, and now I do also use it for my business SIP account. I will test out the new conferencing features with family soon, Zoom and Skype has never worked well for us.

MS Teams is the best way. Worth the dollars.

Microsoft really screwed up not taking advantage of its Skype acquisition and furthering the technology that Skype had a large and early lead at. In my opinion, MS Teams is in many ways comparably worse, not that Skype was ever a technological darling. Regardless, on my Mac laptop, Teams is incredibly slow, difficult to use, and has all sorts of challenges with screen share. Might be my setup, but I simply don't have those issues with other conferencing apps.

Re: The Jami conferencing system

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Jami's SIP integration is pretty good - I use it with voip.ms. They have an unfortunate relationship with Ubuntu, and only really take bug reports against snap or PPA builds. Does the job well enough though that I ditched my yealink.
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