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Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by codeisawesome »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #8
h2odragon wrote: post #2

$800 to pre-order. (Corrected: $1800 for the pre-order, $800 for the smaller one) E-ink is one of those great technologies that seems like it has potential but won't "arrive" until after the patents all expire.

>it has potential but won't "arrive" until after the patents all expire This is somewhat of a misconception. The high cost today has nothing to do with patents anymore, for the most part, though that' still a speedbump. It getting good yields in the fabs for the e-ink films that's the problem, and that's where e-ink has the secret sauce and why others can't compete even though they know how it works. It's like saying…

I would love to be a fly on the wall when the unit price calculation for some high tech item is made. I wonder if it just goes like “component x + y + margin%”… what those components are in stuff like processors, screens etc must be so interesting!

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

#12

Post by fbn79 »

patall wrote: post #10

My dad has bought the 25.3'' E ink monitor from Dasung. From what he tells, it does not have a backlight and is itself to dark for his taste outside of middle of the day. Maybe it will be better during summer or in bright condition but sitting further away from these devices may require more than just reflectiveness for some users.

eInk is not transparent, you canno have backlight. It's objective is to emulate ink on paper.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by deanc »

lambdaba wrote: post #7

I couldn't (easily) find information about refresh rates and such, what I want is to know if this is usable for coding. Frankly I'm down to go with lower stats for this, because I so want to be able to use a computer with just natural light. If anybody has been doing this I'd love to read about your experience!

Might be a bit of a struggle without syntax highlighting? Contrast won't get you very far.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by h2odragon »

codeisawesome wrote: post #11
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it has potential but won't "arrive" until after the patents all expire This is somewhat of a misconception. The high cost today has nothing to do with patents anymore, for the most part, though that' still a speedbump. It getting good yields in the fabs for the e-ink films that's the problem, and that's where e-ink has the secret sauce and why others can't compete even though they know how it works. It's like saying…

I would love to be a fly on the wall when the unit price calculation for some high tech item is made. I wonder if it just goes like “component x + y + margin%”… what those components are in stuff like processors, screens etc must be so interesting!

It cost us $X billion to set up the line, materials, marketing etc. We expect to sell $Y quantity. Price = $X / $Y.

Or more usually, it seems: "We think we can get $N for it; so if we can make it for $N/10 we'll announce production and find a manufacturing partner to make them for us on credit."

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by fho »

deanc wrote: post #14
lambdaba wrote: post #7

I couldn't (easily) find information about refresh rates and such, what I want is to know if this is usable for coding. Frankly I'm down to go with lower stats for this, because I so want to be able to use a computer with just natural light. If anybody has been doing this I'd love to read about your experience!

Might be a bit of a struggle without syntax highlighting? Contrast won't get you very far.

You might be surprised how far contrast (and cursive, bold, etc) can get you. Eg: https://github.com/fxn/vim-monochrome

edit: Also, and probably a lot more controversial, code structure matters a lot. No syntax highlighting will save you if your code consists of opaque blocks of text.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by axegon_ »

h2odragon wrote: post #2

$800 to pre-order. (Corrected: $1800 for the pre-order, $800 for the smaller one) E-ink is one of those great technologies that seems like it has potential but won't "arrive" until after the patents all expire.

Given the prices of e-ink displays in general, this is not too bad. Still outrageous though.

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by numpad0 »

patall wrote: post #10

My dad has bought the 25.3'' E ink monitor from Dasung. From what he tells, it does not have a backlight and is itself to dark for his taste outside of middle of the day. Maybe it will be better during summer or in bright condition but sitting further away from these devices may require more than just reflectiveness for some users.

Contrast ratio of E Ink is like 10:1. I don't know exactly how it compares but backlit LCD is approx 1k:1, OLED is 1m:1 in contrast(pun intended).

Re: Boox Mira Pro – 25.3" E Ink Monitor

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Post by robbedpeter »

h2odragon wrote: post #2

$800 to pre-order. (Corrected: $1800 for the pre-order, $800 for the smaller one) E-ink is one of those great technologies that seems like it has potential but won't "arrive" until after the patents all expire.

Seems bonkers to me. If they'd been more permissive with licensing the tech, they'd have made a lot more money, advanced the tech, and they could have exploited spin off. The way it was handled seems petty and small minded in a stupid and greedy way.
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