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U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

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Post by snypher »

wolverine876 wrote: post #131
john37386 wrote: post #71

Used to work for internet video game companies at the infrastructure level. We were constantly under attack. I mean, out of 40 Gbps of bandwidth on internet spread over multiple data centers, a good percentage was just pure hacks and attacks. I can't imagine to drop our firewalls, ips and all of the security gears we had for few seconds. The knowledge built to reach this level of maturity in internet security was sev…

> They probably deserve a good shake. Let's give them a good shake, shall we? What does that mean?

The state of accepting something as honest or deserving of trust even though there is some doubt.

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Post by analog31 »

jand wrote: post #43

This article presents some thoughts on how, if and when the US should or could strike (back) in space after summarizing the alleged current space combat capability developments of other nations. You can easily replace "US" with other nations and the target audience with their citizens and allies. By this logic, every nation needs to ramp up space combat capabilities, because their perceived or real enemies could also…

Perhaps preferable to participating in an arms race, would be figuring out how to live without satellites. It occurs to me that the cell phone system can locate me without GPS, though I don't know how accurate it is.

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Post by plandis »

nraynaud wrote: post #25

I just love the complete lack of self-awareness. Russia and China bad, the US is good.

You think that Putin and Xi are the good guys here? You really think the world would be a better place if the US let them be the world’s super powers?

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

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Post by gpanders »

ceejayoz wrote: post #92
temp_sat_123 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rockets and spaceplanes are not the only threat model. We build commercial satellites that have to contend with jamming attacks and other intentional interference. I'm not one to carry water for the military industrial complex - they hype up threats for more money all the time (see: Hypersonics) - but I can assure you that these attacks are occurring right now.

> I can assure you that these attacks are occurring right now. I can assure you we're doing the same thing, though.

Oh, ok, so I guess it’s all good then?

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Post by ceejayoz »

gpanders wrote: post #155
ceejayoz wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can assure you that these attacks are occurring right now. I can assure you we're doing the same thing, though.

Oh, ok, so I guess it’s all good then?

It makes the pearl clutching a little funny.

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Post by wolverine876 »

russli1993 wrote: post #125

On Aug 2020, a US spy satellite moved close to a Chinese satellite, attempting to shadow it closely. It was caught by the Chinese and they maneuvered it to get away from the US satellite. This seems to constitute ill or malign intent. Why would you go and bother the property of another person? What is the intent behind this move? Trust goes both ways, and it takes effort from both parties to build trust. This kind of…

> This seems to constitute ill or malign intent. Why would you go and bother the property of another person? What is the intent behind this move?

This question is hard to understand. You don't know why competing militaries would behave this way?

The OP doesn't discuss trust; it informs you about such activity and the US militaries desire to counter it. Should they do nothing? Do you think China and Russia will stop if the US never acts in its own defense? Putin and Xi will suddenly decide we are all friends?

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Post by wolverine876 »

Similar things happen regularly between competing militaries in more atmospheric situations. Russia flies planes near or into NATO airspace; China flies and sails near Taiwan and various neighbors. The US spies everywhere and challenges Chinese claims to the South China Sea. Planes take dangerously close approaches to other planes and as we know well, cyber attacks happen constantly.

I wonder how the orbital activities described in the OP compare. Are they more or less consequential? Are the rules of engagement as mature? Are these just run-of-the-mill encounters?

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Post by greeneggs »

russli1993 wrote: post #125

On Aug 2020, a US spy satellite moved close to a Chinese satellite, attempting to shadow it closely. It was caught by the Chinese and they maneuvered it to get away from the US satellite. This seems to constitute ill or malign intent. Why would you go and bother the property of another person? What is the intent behind this move? Trust goes both ways, and it takes effort from both parties to build trust. This kind of…

I don't see why looking at something closely is evidence of "malign intent." After all, the whole point of spy satellites is to look closely at other countries. You could say that it is risky, because there could be a collision, but that is quite different from malign intent, and this risk can be greatly mitigated.

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Post by b_emery »

russli1993 wrote: post #125

On Aug 2020, a US spy satellite moved close to a Chinese satellite, attempting to shadow it closely. It was caught by the Chinese and they maneuvered it to get away from the US satellite. This seems to constitute ill or malign intent. Why would you go and bother the property of another person? What is the intent behind this move? Trust goes both ways, and it takes effort from both parties to build trust. This kind of…

The intent, according to your link: "What we think is happening here is the development and experimentation and validation of what we call a tactic, technique and procedure, a TTP, to spoof an enemy’s network for SSA [space situational awareness]"
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