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U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

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Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

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This is currently a very active area of so-called grey-zone[0] warfare. It goes beyond the US, which is better prepared for this than most. Some European governments recently started investing heavily in their own satellite warfare capabilities as a response to increasingly aggressive and diverse activities targeting their assets as well.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey-zone_(international_relat...

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#52

This is propaganda, the US is the only military with operational space drones and space planes. They have the technology and enough budget to defend military and commercial satellites and just looking for political support to actually do so. The CCP military may be ahead in number of rockets but the US is way ahead in number of spy satellites by a far margin and can also commission civilian capabilities for this.

Joe at The Drive has been writing a ton of Space Force propaganda articles lately.

The Defense Budget is getting debated now and this "news" really does seem aimed at Congress.

Space Force and SDA want to fund their constellation of hypersonic reentry vehicles based on the SpaceX Starlink platform [1,2,3]. It would provide instant kill capability around the world. China is the justification for this massive buildup of weapons in space.

[1] https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/space-based-missile-defense...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles (old project now rebooted with SDA)

[3] https://www.nap.edu/download/13189 (Details matching original Starlink orbits, click Download as Guest)

Even a few years ago the cost to launch all this would have been astronomical, but SpaceX has since brought costs down by 1 order of magnitude (or 2-orders with Starship). Still expensive, but within reach with a little warmongering.

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#53
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

oh man... it is really hard to see through news nowadays. What is real, what isn't? That's why transparency is such an important value in organizations and governments. The more transparency, the easier it is to move things in the right direction. That's why I'm confident that China will have a lot of trouble with corruption and long-term growth. But it doesn't mean that we're good at it, and we should strive for Dem…

It’s not nowadays, it has sheets been the case.

Sheets has been

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#54

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Does the space force need to justify its existence? Seems obviously justified to me, anything in space will be one of the first targets in any near peer conflicts and every state with the capability is working on and even openly testing space capable weapons.

Is there anything from the ground that can be done by Space Force to protect assets in space from direct attack from projectile weapons? Is there anything Space Force can to from space to protect them? No? Then what have they actually done except get new uniforms and patches?

Unified space command into a single branch. Also gives a way for Congress to appropriate funds to the USSF with the Department of the Air Force and not deal with the USAF wanting to repurpose the funds for aircraft, which apparently has been a problem for quite a while. Space is its own unique domain and should be treated as such.

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#55

> There may come a point where we demonstrate some of our capabilities so that our adversaries understand they cannot deny us the use of space without consequence Obviously that time has come if they are attacking our satellites. Why is everyone in the US government so afraid to stand up to China?

I am starting to feel weird about this mentality, I.e.:

If someone is capable of attacking us, they are most likely already planning to attack us, and we must plan to attack "first". (Implied in "stand-up to China, as if US were already being put down...)

I mean, I was born and raised in China, CCP does not manage to install such mentality into adult Chinese. I never see anyone who say "we have to prepare to strike first".

Is this mentality real? Or I perceived wrong?

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#56
post #52

This is propaganda, the US is the only military with operational space drones and space planes. They have the technology and enough budget to defend military and commercial satellites and just looking for political support to actually do so. The CCP military may be ahead in number of rockets but the US is way ahead in number of spy satellites by a far margin and can also commission civilian capabilities for this.

Joe at The Drive has been writing a ton of Space Force propaganda articles lately. The Defense Budget is getting debated now and this "news" really does seem aimed at Congress. Space Force and SDA want to fund their constellation of hypersonic reentry vehicles based on the SpaceX Starlink platform [1,2,3]. It would provide instant kill capability around the world. China is the justification for this massive buildup o…

Yeah following that line of thought I think they are just scrambling for a piece of the budget that's "freed" now that the military doesn't have to sustain operations in Afghanistan anymore. That's what I mean with propaganda.

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#57
post #43

This article presents some thoughts on how, if and when the US should or could strike (back) in space after summarizing the alleged current space combat capability developments of other nations. You can easily replace "US" with other nations and the target audience with their citizens and allies. By this logic, every nation needs to ramp up space combat capabilities, because their perceived or real enemies could also…

I'm also picturing something like selling anti-anti-satellite defense systems to US military allies to keep money flowing to military contractors.

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#58

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Because I don't think one guy saying they're launching non-damaging attacks on satellites is worth making the lives of over a billion people worse.

If retaliation for an attack makes the lives of 1 billion Chinese worse, then that's on them for attacking, not on us for responding. A space force general is not "one guy saying"

> then that's on them for attacking, not on us for responding.

and if the other party applies this same reasoning to your response? if your epistemics are at all self-consistent, then after the escalation you’re responsible for the negative impact on about half of all the lives impacted. the easy out you present is just self delusion.

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

#59
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Don’t forget only existing as a separate department as an ego boost by the the idiot who literally tried to overthrow the government when he didn’t get his way in an election. To me the Space Force is terribly tainted by association. I don’t know what will change that, but vague claims of threats doesn’t.

> Don’t forget only existing as a separate department as an ego boost by the the idiot who literally tried to overthrow the government when he didn’t get his way in an election. While the description of Trump is accurate, that of the US Space Force is not: it does not exist as a separate department, it is a separate uniformed service within the Department of the Air Force, much as the Marine Corps is within the Depar…

That’s what I meant, sorry. Bring its own branch as opposed to when it was a part of the other branches.

My mistake in word choice. You’re correct.

Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general

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post #43

This article presents some thoughts on how, if and when the US should or could strike (back) in space after summarizing the alleged current space combat capability developments of other nations. You can easily replace "US" with other nations and the target audience with their citizens and allies. By this logic, every nation needs to ramp up space combat capabilities, because their perceived or real enemies could also…

Can't say we promote that anywhere though.

Did he rise to a high rank? Became a thought leader? He was reprimanded, and he considered according to him that he just did his job and nothing really (that is to his credit perhaps). I didn't see him getting a Nobel peace prize either, and it seemed it was the west that celebrated this years after he was retired his heroic decision.

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