“Space Force” has been around for decades.
See the “National Reconnaissance Office” https://www.nro.gov/
U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general
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#32> There may come a point where we demonstrate some of our capabilities so that our adversaries understand they cannot deny us the use of space without consequence Obviously that time has come if they are attacking our satellites. Why is everyone in the US government so afraid to stand up to China?
Corruption, incompetence, poor leadership, etc. Exhausted too much political capital chasing dead ends in Afghanistan and Iraq. Far easier to focus on non-existential threats than to address the elephant in the room.
Don’t forget only existing as a separate department as an ego boost by the the idiot who literally tried to overthrow the government when he didn’t get his way in an election.
To me the Space Force is terribly tainted by association. I don’t know what will change that, but vague claims of threats doesn’t.
Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general
#33> There may come a point where we demonstrate some of our capabilities so that our adversaries understand they cannot deny us the use of space without consequence Obviously that time has come if they are attacking our satellites. Why is everyone in the US government so afraid to stand up to China?
To put it simply, the second we (U.S.) show what we can do, everyone else can start developing countermeasures. It requires a circumstance where the risk of exposing our capabilities is worth the deterrent or retributive effect. So far, throwing shit at satellites doesn't count.
I wanna see one of the USA adversaries magically lose a satellite somehow with firing a missile at it. Like a tractor beam or something. We need some good source material for our high tech, near future science fiction.
Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general
#34> There may come a point where we demonstrate some of our capabilities so that our adversaries understand they cannot deny us the use of space without consequence Obviously that time has come if they are attacking our satellites. Why is everyone in the US government so afraid to stand up to China?
Because I don't think one guy saying they're launching non-damaging attacks on satellites is worth making the lives of over a billion people worse.
If retaliation for an attack makes the lives of 1 billion Chinese worse, then that's on them for attacking, not on us for responding. A space force general is not "one guy saying"
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#35And why should we believe this? Edit: The "space force" needs to justify its existence, and this is a way for them to do it. Why haven't we heard about this before?
Does the space force need to justify its existence? Seems obviously justified to me, anything in space will be one of the first targets in any near peer conflicts and every state with the capability is working on and even openly testing space capable weapons.
Is there anything from the ground that can be done by Space Force to protect assets in space from direct attack from projectile weapons? Is there anything Space Force can to from space to protect them? No? Then what have they actually done except get new uniforms and patches?
Re: U.S. satellites are being attacked every day according to Space Force general
#36And why should we believe this? Edit: The "space force" needs to justify its existence, and this is a way for them to do it. Why haven't we heard about this before?
Why not? China and Russia are ramping up on military presence, maneuvers, and armament. Our top businesses are constantly under attack by nation state actors. I've witnessed a few attacks directly. I'd be willing to bet that there will be some action taken in Ukraine and Taiwan within the decade, possibly simultaneously.
Year.
Possibly month.
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#37This is propaganda, the US is the only military with operational space drones and space planes. They have the technology and enough budget to defend military and commercial satellites and just looking for political support to actually do so. The CCP military may be ahead in number of rockets but the US is way ahead in number of spy satellites by a far margin and can also commission civilian capabilities for this.
That's the benefit of being an early innovator. That doesn't mean threats don't exist.
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#38And why should we believe this? Edit: The "space force" needs to justify its existence, and this is a way for them to do it. Why haven't we heard about this before?
The parent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Command has existed since 1982, so why do you think they need to suddenly justify their existence?
Is this just a stupid reaction to Donald Trump being the one to do the reorganization?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Corruption, incompetence, poor leadership, etc. Exhausted too much political capital chasing dead ends in Afghanistan and Iraq. Far easier to focus on non-existential threats than to address the elephant in the room.
Don’t forget only existing as a separate department as an ego boost by the the idiot who literally tried to overthrow the government when he didn’t get his way in an election. To me the Space Force is terribly tainted by association. I don’t know what will change that, but vague claims of threats doesn’t.
> Don’t forget only existing as a separate department as an ego boost by the the idiot who literally tried to overthrow the government when he didn’t get his way in an election.
While the description of Trump is accurate, that of the US Space Force is not: it does not exist as a separate department, it is a separate uniformed service within the Department of the Air Force, much as the Marine Corps is within the Department of the Navy.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because in a Taiwan scenario, China almost certainly would attack US Satellites. And vice versa: USA would want to stop Chinese Satellites, so that they are blind to the movement of our carriers. ----- Frankly, I'd expect that the Space Force is already conducting testing-level operations against our opponent's satellites. From temporary blindness (this laser-thing they're talking about), to permanent disablement (mi…
I can imagine lightweight semi-permanent disablement by spraying paint on lenses and wrapping the entire craft in aluminum foil. Zero space debris, and not even destruction of property. This takes more fuel and an advanced robot craft, but should be preferable for a time when a fast all-out war is not being fought. And I hope both sides would like to avoid an all-out war.
Space rendezvous is really hard. Easier to get line-of-sight and then beam attack it